Date: 2021-11-11 05:06 pm (UTC)
pauamma: Cartooney crab wearing hot pink and acid green facemask holding drink with straw (Default)
From: [personal profile] pauamma
*wince* I hear you. (I was unable to make sense of long division until someone explained not how to do it, but why that apparently pointless sequence of piecemeal operations worked.)

Date: 2021-11-11 08:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kengr
I got lucky. In 6th grade (1966) they introduced The New Math and working with different number bases caught my attention.

Then the Asimov books I referred to in another comment got me thru algebra. and from there I could mostly handle it myself.

Date: 2021-11-11 10:19 pm (UTC)
pauamma: Cartooney crab wearing hot pink and acid green facemask holding drink with straw (Default)
From: [personal profile] pauamma
Here too (late 1960s France, equivalent of US grade school - I think grade 3). That approach may have worked with others; I don't remember. I only know that for whatever reason, it didn't for me.

Date: 2021-11-12 12:46 am (UTC)
pauamma: Cartooney crab wearing hot pink and acid green facemask holding drink with straw (Default)
From: [personal profile] pauamma
In hindsight, that may very well be. I was taught how to extract square roots using pen and paper, but if I ever learned it, it didn't stiuck even for the maybe 2 years before I started using precomputed numerical tables and a slide rule.
Edited (These letters are next to each other. No, really.) Date: 2021-11-12 12:47 am (UTC)

Date: 2021-11-11 08:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kengr
Something that most teachers never knew helps a *lot* with both multiplication and division.

What they really are is repeated addition or subtraction respectively.

So 12 time 13 is actually "what do you get when you add 13 12s together.

Likewise, 159/12 is actually "how many times can you subtract 12 from 159"

Those explanations make many things much clearer.

My standard recomendations for folks who have trouble with math are Isaac Asimov's Realm of Numbers and follow that up with Realm of Algebra.

Alas, Asimov hit calculus and bounced, so there's no equivalent that I know of for higher match than algebra. But at least those two will get you through high scholl in most places.

Date: 2021-11-11 10:35 pm (UTC)
pauamma: Cartooney crab wearing hot pink and acid green facemask holding drink with straw (Default)
From: [personal profile] pauamma
The explanation I got (not from my teacher - it was an adult family friend) was along the lines of "It's the same steps as for multiplying numbers with more than one digit, but in reverse. Here's an example using the multiplication steps for (mumble); try reversing them."

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