Eva's been watching the new Duck Tales

[conuly]

Which, tangent, reminds me that the other Disney Afternoon shows, especially Darkwing Duck as it's in the same universe, are all ripe for reboots as well. But I digress.

We were talking about Duck Tales and about how that sort of show had no continuity in the 90s at all, and how in general arc based shows and real continuity only started going mainstream around that time. Previously, most shows assumed that viewers wouldn't watch every episode, and if they did they couldn't be trusted to remember what had happened before and whether or not it was important.

And this put a thought in my head but I don't have the data to know if I'm right or not. Is it the case that a. when a show starts off with a recap, "previously on whatever", it's shorter than it used to be and b. less likely to talk about events of the exact previous episode instead of stuff from half a season ago or more? Or am I completely wrong? Has anybody been keeping track of this?

Comments

[alexseanchai]

I think Supernatural rarely mentions the most recent episode in an episode recap, but also I haven't seen a single episode since S9 was airing and I understand they just wrapped filming on the S15 aka series finale and I wasn't exactly tracking anyway. I don't know about any other shows, bc all the other shows I can think of where I remember there being recaps, the order I watched in had way more to do with when I happened to be in the room when Mom was watching than with any sort of plot.

Miraculous Ladybug has no recaps, fortunately for the fandom's sanity. S3 chronological order is production code order. S1 and S2 are theoretically watchable in any order, reportedly because the networks wanted something like Spongebob (which has not really got continuity), but this theory—well, it's more of a disproved hypothesis; we just aren't entirely certain of what the chronological order is.

[conuly]

How weird is the order of season one, then?

[alexseanchai]

let me illustrate with selected S1 episodes in official airing orders:

US Netflix:
01 The Bubbler
02 Mr. Pigeon
03 Stormy Weather
04 Timebreaker
14 Princess Fragrance
15-16 Origins

France TFOU:
01 Stormy Weather
02 The Bubbler
05 Timebreaker
06 Mr. Pigeon
22 Princess Fragrance
25-26 Origins

China:
01 Stormy Weather
04 Princess Fragrance
06 Mr. Pigeon
09 The Bubbler
16 Timebreaker
22-23 Origins

(chronologically, the Origins two-part is unambiguously the earliest episodes, and in terms of best first-watch order, in my opinion the place for Origins is after all the other S1 episodes and before all the S2 episodes except the Christmas special.)

[conuly]

That's, um... wow.

[alexseanchai]

p much!

and the Australia order has "Pixelator" almost last in S1 and "Guitar Villain" midseason, when Marinette designs for Jagged in "Pixelator" a pair of over-the-top sunglasses that Jagged is wearing in "Guitar Villain" to illustrate why he is commissioning Marinette to design something else

[alexseanchai]

[meta] time flies like an arrow (or, causality is not an oxymoron) (2532 words) by AlexSeanchai
Chapters: 2/3
Fandom: Miraculous Ladybug
Rating: Not Rated
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Additional Tags: Meta, Nonfiction
Summary:

…fruit flies like a banana.

A suggested chronological viewing order for Miraculous Ladybug canon, with reasoning and with an attempt to sort out which references to calendar dates and/or to how much time passes between canonical events make sense and which one must choose between.

This is currently limited to the episodes proper; deuterocanon such as the Miraculous Secrets webisodes may later be added.

[conuly]

Okay, so two questions.

1. What about the birthday episode which also appears to be listed as its own series and

2. How do they afford that house with an enormous bedroom and private balcony for Marinette with what appears to be a lovely view of Notre Dame?

[alexseanchai]

the birthday episode is not an episode, it is like three minutes of clips and music

Marinette doesn't live in a house, she lives in an apartment above the bakery her parents own—not that that necessarily answers the finances question

but I am not sure the Notre Dame is always in that place, either (and I'm only talking about episodes aired before it burned, at that); I admit I haven't been paying that much attention to the Notre Dame, but the Eiffel Tower is definitely hopping all over the map: some shots it's behind the school and some shots it's not, some shots it's behind the Agreste Mansion and some shots it's not… (the mansion might actually canonically have been financed with self-centered use of magic via making Adrien's father's fashion enterprise make bank, though also Adrien's mother seems to have come from money, so)

[conuly]

Marinette doesn't live in a house, she lives in an apartment above the bakery her parents own—not that that necessarily answers the finances question

Not really. I admit I don't know much about the Paris real estate market, but with or without the view that place ought to be worth a big rent.