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It's obviously Appalachia, and judging from her bio I'm guessing it's specifically the Great Smoky Mountains. A post-Columbian exchange Appalachia, with domestic Eurasian livestock and introduced, naturalized Eurasian flora such as dandelions, mullein, and rosemary. (And it looks like no American Chestnuts, but maybe they just haven't bumped into any.)

Which would be fine, except it's pretty jarring when the described society is a pre-gunpowder Standard European Fantasyland where everybody mostly lives in the same places that they've lived in for the past thousand or more generations, universally ruled over by hereditary monarchs. There don't appear to be displaced Native Americans, but then, there also don't appear to be Roma or Jews.

Setting: 5 stars, feels like you're there
General worldbuilding: it wouldn't clash so badly if the setting wasn't so great

Date: 2020-06-30 05:39 pm (UTC)
nodrog: T Dalton as Philip in Lion in Winter, saying “What If is a Game for Scholars” (Alternate History)
From: [personal profile] nodrog

Maybe there's a land bridge to Europe…?

Or a LOT of Bronze-Age trans-Atlantic commerce, back when the Mexicans were encountering the “bearded white men from beyond the ocean horizon” they still remembered when the Spaniards showed up.

(Grr…  Y’ know, one bead of Egyptian faience found in a British passage grave proved commerce to exist across that vast distance.  All we would need is to find one (1) bronze artifact, anything, in a Toltec or Olmec tomb.  Please.)

Edited Date: 2020-06-30 05:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2020-07-01 12:11 am (UTC)
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It's sometimes very hard not to imagine every fictional landscape - even your own- as the place you know. There's a book - Peter Mendelsund's What We See When We Read - that goes into that from the reader POV, and I guess for some writers it happens to, then when someone who knows the area they're visualising reads it... it gets caught.

Date: 2020-07-01 03:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mindstalk
Geology and biology are hard. I don't blame an author for deciding to lift something familiar and filling it with whomever. And if it's fantasyland then getting hung up on evolution seems unnecessary.

Your other comment is a bit more eyebrow-raising, but I dunno.

Date: 2020-07-01 05:20 am (UTC)
nodrog: T Dalton as Philip in Lion in Winter, saying “What If is a Game for Scholars” (Alternate History)
From: [personal profile] nodrog

But where there’s smoke there’s fire, and as we dig farther into it the past constantly gets bigger and busier.  We may not yet have hard artifact evidence, but the smoke in this case is hard to ignore:  The bearded white men had returned as they’d said they would.  Oops…  Plus the presence of cotton in both Old and New Worlds is hard to otherwise explain.

As for floods, define “world.”  You better believe Mesopotamia flooded - it’s all mud flats, not a stone to be found, a land created by flooding.  If “world” means “as far as the eye can see, to the uttermost horizon,” one hard winter rain could spread mud-brick-obliterating silt-brown water across the entire world by definition.

Edited Date: 2020-07-01 05:50 am (UTC)

Date: 2020-07-04 08:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sallymn
Umm.... that's taking it rather too far, true, and would be very distracting???

Date: 2020-06-30 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com
Sounds like the author knows and loves her own home's natural environment, but isn't really conscious of the overwhelming impact of six centuries of destruction of native species and introduction of non-native species, all consequences of the European invasion. The eco-systems of this continent would have been unimaginably different if that invasion had never taken place.

*sigh* Sad to think of how exquisite this whole planet would be, if only the damned apes hadn't started setting shit on fire. If I ever get hold of a TARDIS, we'll see about that. (The fact that we're all still here shows that I never WILL get hold of a TARDIS, but oh well. We know what the Vulcan Science Academy would say.)

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