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conulyTurns out he got captured in the Bronx. Because of course he did! Why the fuck would he hang around Staten Island at all, much less right where he already was? Once he was already escaped, he must've kept running. I know that when I went into the city, there wasn't anybody watching the boat. Why not? Because all the cops in the city and then some were corralled in a 750 foot stretch of Stapleton!
And to top it, the charge is "escaping from custody and possessing a controlled substance and weapon" which is bad, yes, but not bad enough to justify my having to wade through a swamp of cops just to walk the dogs - much less the police breaking into my house, etc.
And to top it, the charge is "escaping from custody and possessing a controlled substance and weapon" which is bad, yes, but not bad enough to justify my having to wade through a swamp of cops just to walk the dogs - much less the police breaking into my house, etc.
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Date: 2017-07-22 07:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-07-22 07:51 am (UTC)* There are at least two cops on the boat at all times, plus a handful more at each terminal, and the deckhands are all enormously safety-conscious, to an absolutely ridiculous degree. Maybe he had the good sense to catch a ride with a friend. Driving to the Bronx has got to be faster than taking the train anyway.
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Date: 2017-07-22 08:04 am (UTC)This entire scenario continues to sound more absurd the more you describe it.
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Date: 2017-07-22 08:33 pm (UTC)I.... suspect the assumption was not that, if he was on the bottom of the pool, he was holding his breath.
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Date: 2017-07-22 08:53 pm (UTC)ETA: I was under the impression that for a sufficiently lean person, most of one's bouyancy comes from the air in the lungs, and if one has aspirated water, one sinks. No?
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Date: 2017-07-22 09:59 pm (UTC)Edit: Hey that wasn't a top-level reply!
Content warning: abstract child death; why won't spoilers/cut-text work in messages?
Date: 2017-07-23 03:14 am (UTC)But I suppose a muscular adult might be less floaty, that's true!
(*pause* Oh, hey, I wonder if I qualified to see threstrals by age 7-8. >_> )
(Did warn that you didn't want to know how I knew. *wry grin*)
(But...*waves hands*...don't worry about the topic coming up! It was a long time ago and I was a young kid, so it's kind of a Thing That Happened and I'm just neurotic about keeping track of my kid. *wry*)
Re: Content warning: abstract child death; why won't spoilers/cut-text work in messages?
Date: 2017-07-23 04:46 am (UTC)It's often really unpleasant when people challenge our statements about traumas we experience – it typically feels like they're questioning whether we really experienced what we did, which hurts. But when we generalize from our anecdotal experiences of traumas or put ourselves forward as authorities about classes of trauma for which we have one or few example, it's not unreasonable, and pretty likely, that other folks will challenge our statements. And that can be a big ouch.
I mean, this is your lookout, and none of my beeswax. But I thought I'd mention, it does look like you're setting yourself up to get hurt by pretty innocuous interactions, by claiming expertise on what drowned bodies are like from having seen two.
But if you want to enrich the discussion with details of personal observation, more power to you. Don't worry on my account. I'm sorry to hear you went through that; it sounds like it was really rough and difficult to make sense of when you were little.
By random coincidence, I'm here on break from my current research project, which involves documenting the mass death of gay and bisexual men from AIDS in the US. I happened upon a discussion of those statistics on a statistics forum, where a bunch of people stepped forward to recount their personal experiences with how many people they personally knew who died, which wound up having exactly this dynamic. You can't derive a national death rate from what happened to specific communities; just because 90% of one's own community died doesn't mean the national rate wasn't 3%, but it can feel like an invalidation to hear that. So this was on my mind, when I got your comment.
Re: Content warning: abstract child death; why won't spoilers/cut-text work in messages?
Date: 2017-07-24 01:37 am (UTC)And I've got Writer Brain and Writer Brain will hang onto everything. Everything. Which confuses people sometimes, I think, so I tend to pre-emptively "diffident." *wry*
Still wish that comments had spoiler/hide tags for stuff like this, though.
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Date: 2017-07-22 05:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-07-22 08:08 pm (UTC)But it's a fairly poor neighborhood, in a fairly poor section of the Island. We've got the projects only a short walk away. My guess is that the cops, as a rule, don't have much respect for the people in this neighborhood. Eric Garner was murdered less than a mile from my house, outside a store I frequent.
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