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Basically, we're reviewing the difference between words and not-words, but that's not common parlance.
Words: If you're not acting in your child's best interests, you should reconsider having children.
NOTWORDS: If you're not acting in your child's best interests, you should NEVER have kids
NOTWORDS: If you don't act like I would, you're evil.
NOTWORDS: People who disagree with me need to die.
Words: Autism isn't necessarily something that should be cured.
NOTWORDS: Autism is a wonderful thing, and you're stupid!
NOTWORDS: Helping autistics with things they have problems with is a BAD thing.
NOTWORDS: DIE EVIL IMPERIAL SCUM!!!!
Words: Do I have to start linking to definitions every time I post something?
NOTWORDS: Are you compeletely and totally stupid?
Okay, well, I really *am* thinking the last one, but that's because it gets annoying. I realize that a lot of people don't say what they mean. The problem with this is that what you would mean if you said that is not necessarily what they mean when they say that. And even if what they mean when they say that is exactly what you think it is, it's more fun to take their words literally. And if you're talking to me, please do that. I try not to hide my words with notwords. It's confusing, and stupid, and evil. (which means that it confuses me, it's a waste of time, and the person who invented notwords is currently burning)
Words: If you're not acting in your child's best interests, you should reconsider having children.
NOTWORDS: If you're not acting in your child's best interests, you should NEVER have kids
NOTWORDS: If you don't act like I would, you're evil.
NOTWORDS: People who disagree with me need to die.
Words: Autism isn't necessarily something that should be cured.
NOTWORDS: Autism is a wonderful thing, and you're stupid!
NOTWORDS: Helping autistics with things they have problems with is a BAD thing.
NOTWORDS: DIE EVIL IMPERIAL SCUM!!!!
Words: Do I have to start linking to definitions every time I post something?
NOTWORDS: Are you compeletely and totally stupid?
Okay, well, I really *am* thinking the last one, but that's because it gets annoying. I realize that a lot of people don't say what they mean. The problem with this is that what you would mean if you said that is not necessarily what they mean when they say that. And even if what they mean when they say that is exactly what you think it is, it's more fun to take their words literally. And if you're talking to me, please do that. I try not to hide my words with notwords. It's confusing, and stupid, and evil. (which means that it confuses me, it's a waste of time, and the person who invented notwords is currently burning)
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That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 04:11 pm (UTC)*laughing*
I needed that... I've been in a fight on Aut-Partners for the last 24 hours, and it's ridiculous beyond the old mess at AutAdvo.
Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 04:15 pm (UTC)This is all prompted by the convo on breastfeeding. Apparently, saying that people should make choices in their child's best interest is the same as saying that people who don't do that should get beaten up and have their children taken away.
And this, from a community of people who HAVE loudly complained about people bringing their children to pro-life marches, or telling them that homosexuality is wrong. You can't have it both ways. If you can't criticize parents for one choice, you can't criticize them for any choices.
Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 04:26 pm (UTC)No, the one I'm running into (along with
1. Trying to understand why AS people do things is just making excuses for BAD behavior.
2. Being at all understanding or "forgiving" such BAD behavior encourages AS people to be abusive.
3. NTs always apologize sincerely and feel very sorry when they hurt somebody, but AS people just make excuses.
3. AS people should only be with other AS folk because they will "understand" and "be forgiving" when they're abused by one another.
I liked
Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 04:32 pm (UTC)Yes, SOME people really do just make excuses for bad behaviour. But... *smitesmitesmitesmitesmitesmite*
Remind me never ever to go near that list.
Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 04:46 pm (UTC)The whole thing involves a guy who was armchair diagnosed by his wife, who if he is autistic is experiencing total burn-out, and is unable to deal with living in a household with six children of various ages (two of which are his, and all of which are his wife's). I've been attempting to explain why he might be doing things, but now I have to explain why I'm explaining. Soon, I'll have to explain that, too.
I'm also dealing with people who say "LOL" seemingly at random. I have no idea what's so funny, or how I should be interpreting their words.
Also, if the guy is autistic, he goes into berserker-style meltdowns... he has been in jail for domestic violence. Until we trigger a meltdown in an MRI, we really won't know exactly what's going on, but it is seizure-like in it's intensity according to some authors. I'm not saying that he is not responsible for his behavior or should not be punished, but I am saying that until he finds *something else* to do, he'll be locked in the same behavioral program when he has a meltdown. He's also teasing the older boys, which could be simply Evil Step Parent behavior, or it could be the only way he knows how to deal with teenage boys. Hell, it could be PTSD reacting to repressed memory in the form of a revenge fantasy, because now as an older person he has the power to avenge himself on "teenagers," whom he sees as his enemy due to being abused as a teenager.
The fact that his wife won't let us know what's going, on except in short chunks with no way to tell what is HER writing and what is someone else's post that she's replying to, doesn't help, either.
Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 05:00 pm (UTC)Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 05:10 pm (UTC)That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 04:11 pm (UTC)*laughing*
I needed that... I've been in a fight on Aut-Partners for the last 24 hours, and it's ridiculous beyond the old mess at AutAdvo.
Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 04:15 pm (UTC)This is all prompted by the convo on breastfeeding. Apparently, saying that people should make choices in their child's best interest is the same as saying that people who don't do that should get beaten up and have their children taken away.
And this, from a community of people who HAVE loudly complained about people bringing their children to pro-life marches, or telling them that homosexuality is wrong. You can't have it both ways. If you can't criticize parents for one choice, you can't criticize them for any choices.
Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 04:26 pm (UTC)No, the one I'm running into (along with
1. Trying to understand why AS people do things is just making excuses for BAD behavior.
2. Being at all understanding or "forgiving" such BAD behavior encourages AS people to be abusive.
3. NTs always apologize sincerely and feel very sorry when they hurt somebody, but AS people just make excuses.
3. AS people should only be with other AS folk because they will "understand" and "be forgiving" when they're abused by one another.
I liked
Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 04:32 pm (UTC)Yes, SOME people really do just make excuses for bad behaviour. But... *smitesmitesmitesmitesmitesmite*
Remind me never ever to go near that list.
Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 04:46 pm (UTC)The whole thing involves a guy who was armchair diagnosed by his wife, who if he is autistic is experiencing total burn-out, and is unable to deal with living in a household with six children of various ages (two of which are his, and all of which are his wife's). I've been attempting to explain why he might be doing things, but now I have to explain why I'm explaining. Soon, I'll have to explain that, too.
I'm also dealing with people who say "LOL" seemingly at random. I have no idea what's so funny, or how I should be interpreting their words.
Also, if the guy is autistic, he goes into berserker-style meltdowns... he has been in jail for domestic violence. Until we trigger a meltdown in an MRI, we really won't know exactly what's going on, but it is seizure-like in it's intensity according to some authors. I'm not saying that he is not responsible for his behavior or should not be punished, but I am saying that until he finds *something else* to do, he'll be locked in the same behavioral program when he has a meltdown. He's also teasing the older boys, which could be simply Evil Step Parent behavior, or it could be the only way he knows how to deal with teenage boys. Hell, it could be PTSD reacting to repressed memory in the form of a revenge fantasy, because now as an older person he has the power to avenge himself on "teenagers," whom he sees as his enemy due to being abused as a teenager.
The fact that his wife won't let us know what's going, on except in short chunks with no way to tell what is HER writing and what is someone else's post that she's replying to, doesn't help, either.
Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 05:00 pm (UTC)Re: That's happening to me today on another list...
Date: 2004-06-06 05:10 pm (UTC)