OMFG

Nov. 22nd, 2011 10:33 am
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I'm not linking directly to the site, but to the blog post where I read about it.

Apparently, this site about controlling how much you drink has decided that the main risk of drinking for women is getting raped. (But, you know, it's totally all your fault.) And you can find out about it at their site!

There are screenshots in the link. It's hard to link to the stories individually because they're kinda randomized? So who knows how fucked up it all is?

It's close to impossible to find their contact information (I had to google it) but there it is. Go ahead. Contact them! Don't know what to say, but I can think of a few choice words....

Date: 2011-11-23 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amarafox.livejournal.com
What the hell? D:

That is disgusting.

Date: 2011-11-23 06:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] erisiansaint
It would be NICE if these idiots would realize that women, even drunk women in mini-skirts DON'T RAPE THEMSELVES! And that rape is a crime that someone has to deliberately decide to commit!

Date: 2011-11-23 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com
"The main risk of drinking for women is getting raped."

Well, how bogus is that? Everybody knows that the main risk of drinking for both women and men is unprotected CONSENSUAL sex with somebody one would have done better to not go to bed with, but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Um, and car accidents. But getting raped IS definitely high on the list of risks of drinking for women, as it has been ever since alcohol was first discovered.

I didn't go to the site, because I could tell it would only piss me off, but the phrase rape culture always makes me want to start bitch-slapping people with the Clue Trout of Evolutionary Psychology. Yes, humans are dangerous; arguably the most dangerous species this planet has ever produced. We're aggressive social primates; sex and violence are what we do best, what put us at the top of the food chain. Nature equipped the male of our species for hunting, fighting and fucking, whether Culture approves or not.

So? Here are males of a species so naturally prone to sex and violence that in spite of all cultural efforts to the contrary throughout recorded history, they are on the verge of destroying themselves with overpopulation and warfare. They are drinking a substance that impairs their rational thinking, thus releasing their cultural inhibitions against sexual and/or violent acts.

Here comes a female, dressed and scented in the manner most calculated to attract male sexual attention. She is drinking the same substance, so her rational thinking and her inhibitions about sex are impaired too, as well as her motor functions. The main risk is that she too is prone to 'You're Hot When I'm Drunk Syndrome', but the secondary risk is getting raped.

Throughout all of recorded human history, it has been known and passed down from mother to daughter that a woman who wants to minimize her risk of getting raped does not tempt the beast. This means she dresses modestly, whatever that means in her particular climate and culture; she keeps her wits about her so she can spot trouble coming, which means drinking herself stupid; she doesn't talk and act 'sexy' with guys she doesn't want; she doesn't go off alone with drunk men to places where it would be easy to rape her.

So if a woman ignores all those centuries of common sense, and instead goes out alone to a bar in her sexy party clothes to flaunt, flirt, and get too drunk to look after herself, is it "her fault" if she gets raped?

No, it's not. She is responsible for her own actions, but she is not responsible for the actions of others. Men who let themselves be lured into stupid actions - like having sex with anyone whose consent could possibly be questioned later, especially when both parties are drunk - are responsible for them. Non-consensual sex is rape; rapists go to jail; men who don't want to risk that can damn-well watch where they stick their dicks, especially when they're drunk.

That's not going to un-rape the person who got raped, however. Therefore the whole "it's not your fault" thing is totally moot, because you're going to feel just as bad whether it was your fault or not. This is why women with sense don't make themselves into rape-magnets. By the same token, men with sense don't hang out with rape-magnets, because being accused of rape will also feel just as bad whether it's your fault or not, let alone going to jail.

It's A Jungle Out There (http://users.ipfw.edu/ruflethe/itsajungleoutthere.htm) and Date Rape's Other Victim (http://www.aaets.org/article137.htm)

Erratum

Date: 2011-11-23 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com
Edit: sorry; where it says "which means drinking yourself stupid" should have been "not drinking yourself stupid", of course.

Date: 2011-11-24 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marveen.livejournal.com
I find myself again wishing for a "like" button on LJ.

Someone once turned a metaphor on that--the criminal is always, always, at fault. But when the fellow in the expensive suit and the gold cufflinks goes for a walk in a deserted alley in the bad part of town with his fat money clip peeking out of his pocket--you have to ask "What the hell were you THINKING?" while you process the mugger's arrest.

It's still a crime. But don't make it EASY to commit.
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