Two links

[conuly]

One, an article on the purported benefits of a you-facing stroller.

And a video in Norwegian (youtube works again! Thanks all!) comparing a baby's view from in an (mom-facing) stroller and in a carrier on the back. I can't tell if the baby's lying down in the stroller or sitting up, but I suspect lying down. Strollers in Norway, and other really cold countries, have always struck me as a little silly. Unless you add sleigh runners to them, then it's kinda nifty... and silly.

Comments

[velvetchamber.livejournal.com]

You do realise that the temperature difference between summer and winter in the continental Nordic countries can be considerable? Here in Uppsala, Sweden, I have been in both -20°C and +30°C, and Uppsala is not at all the most extreme.

[conuly]

No, I didn't realize that.

And I can't read celsius.

[velvetchamber.livejournal.com]

Also, strollers actually make a lot of sense in winter, since the last thing you want to do is to crush your child if you happen to slip on ice.

[conuly]

*shakes head*

No, no, no.

If you should slip on ice while pushing a stroller, the stroller could roll right into the street. Or, worse - and this has happened to me with shopping carts, which are generally less prone to this sort of thing - the whole stroller could flip over as you go down.

People who fall wearing their kids rarely land on the kids anyway. I've done it - once - and I twisted myself all around and banged up my hip something awful, but Evangeline (all of, what, six months?) never even woke up.

[velvetchamber.livejournal.com]

Meanwhile, traffic is completely different in the very slippery places from what I suppose you are used to. I have also fallen very often on ice, and broken things I did very much not want to break in my backpack, of course not as precious as a child, but still, unavoidable. Chest carriers might be better, since then it is easier to use one's hands, but on the back is very dangerous on ice. Except of course if it is very padded.


It all boils down to the modern "convenience" of asphalt though, without it, falls would be less common in winter

[conuly]

Well, you know way up north better than I do.

Chest carriers probably wouldn't be better. Throws your balance off like nobody's business.

[oloriel.livejournal.com]

+30°C = Not what you'd call cold. 86°F.

-20°C = This is pretty darn cold. -4°F.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

Lol. -4F. cold. BWAHAHAHAHA. I wish.


*goes and huddles in my Ft. Drum snowy igloo house*

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

Ah here we go!

Taken from the Army's website for Ft Drum weather averages:

If arriving during our winter months, please dress warmly as we do get below zero temperatures. Hats, mittens, scarves, and warm boots are a must! It's also important to dress in loose fitting layers.

*Remember it's almost as bad to wear too much as too little.

Believe it or not we do get summer up here and the summers are beautiful.

Summer Temperatures Ranges Between 60 and 80 Degrees.

Winter Temperatures Range Between 30 and -30 Degrees.






Pretty much: -4 would be NICE in winter. :-p

[oloriel.livejournal.com]

Yes, well.
Still, even if you live in an especially cold area, I think it's legitimate to consider any temperature at which water turns solid a cold temperature. Even a cozy 30°F, and certainly anything in the minus-range.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

That's the thing. For us, thirties is early spring weather. kinda sad, really. its when people shed their winter coats, and don a sweater.

[velvetchamber.livejournal.com]

You do realise that the temperature difference between summer and winter in the continental Nordic countries can be considerable? Here in Uppsala, Sweden, I have been in both -20°C and +30°C, and Uppsala is not at all the most extreme.

[conuly]

No, I didn't realize that.

And I can't read celsius.

[velvetchamber.livejournal.com]

Also, strollers actually make a lot of sense in winter, since the last thing you want to do is to crush your child if you happen to slip on ice.

[conuly]

*shakes head*

No, no, no.

If you should slip on ice while pushing a stroller, the stroller could roll right into the street. Or, worse - and this has happened to me with shopping carts, which are generally less prone to this sort of thing - the whole stroller could flip over as you go down.

People who fall wearing their kids rarely land on the kids anyway. I've done it - once - and I twisted myself all around and banged up my hip something awful, but Evangeline (all of, what, six months?) never even woke up.

[velvetchamber.livejournal.com]

Meanwhile, traffic is completely different in the very slippery places from what I suppose you are used to. I have also fallen very often on ice, and broken things I did very much not want to break in my backpack, of course not as precious as a child, but still, unavoidable. Chest carriers might be better, since then it is easier to use one's hands, but on the back is very dangerous on ice. Except of course if it is very padded.


It all boils down to the modern "convenience" of asphalt though, without it, falls would be less common in winter

[conuly]

Well, you know way up north better than I do.

Chest carriers probably wouldn't be better. Throws your balance off like nobody's business.

[oloriel.livejournal.com]

+30°C = Not what you'd call cold. 86°F.

-20°C = This is pretty darn cold. -4°F.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

Lol. -4F. cold. BWAHAHAHAHA. I wish.


*goes and huddles in my Ft. Drum snowy igloo house*

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

Ah here we go!

Taken from the Army's website for Ft Drum weather averages:

If arriving during our winter months, please dress warmly as we do get below zero temperatures. Hats, mittens, scarves, and warm boots are a must! It's also important to dress in loose fitting layers.

*Remember it's almost as bad to wear too much as too little.

Believe it or not we do get summer up here and the summers are beautiful.

Summer Temperatures Ranges Between 60 and 80 Degrees.

Winter Temperatures Range Between 30 and -30 Degrees.






Pretty much: -4 would be NICE in winter. :-p

[oloriel.livejournal.com]

Yes, well.
Still, even if you live in an especially cold area, I think it's legitimate to consider any temperature at which water turns solid a cold temperature. Even a cozy 30°F, and certainly anything in the minus-range.

[lizziey.livejournal.com]

That's the thing. For us, thirties is early spring weather. kinda sad, really. its when people shed their winter coats, and don a sweater.