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conulyAs is my wont (cool word, that, wont... Wont wont wont!) I went straight to the negative comments, because they're usually more interesting. Oh man.
Quite frankly my only thought is I DON'T CARE WHO EVERYONE'S FATHER IS, IF YOU WANT ME TO KNOW THEN WRITE A PREQUEL, JUST TELL THE STORY IT IDIOTIC BRIT! I don't know how someone who wrote something as good as "The Hobbit" could produce this junk. I think what happened was he had a bunch of notes left over, and wanted to cash in by writing a sequel, so he threw all the details he had onto a shallow plot, but sense it was to complicated to be called "dumbed-down" like most money-making sequels noone could attack it. And
*sighs* I will refrain from mentioning that The Hobbit was the prequel, and LotR was the original. Actually, interesting fact, he didn't write LotR to sell a book, he wrote it so he'd have a place to use his conlangs realisticly. The books were written for the langauges, not the other way around.
The Lord Of The Rings Is Racist It is a disquised South African White supremist fairy tale.
Could you elaborate? Or explain how it's South African instead of British or American or Nazi white supremacy?
But this book fails because of its incessant praise of war. The Nazis were evil because of the Holocaust. What did the Allies do to stop that? Not much (didn't even bomb the tracks leading to the death camps). War is simply evil; the sad lesson of the 20th Century is that warriors only contribute to the problem (Hiroshima) and only peacemakers fight evil effectively. (MLK, Ghandi, Einstein)
Tolkein should be criticised for glorifing war because he: (1) wrote for children, is very popular, and (3)is credited with greatness.
The Nazis did evil things, such as the Holocaust. However, that has nothing to do with war, but with racism. It was our going to war that ended the Holocaust. And while I agree that Hiroshima was an evil thing, I find it strange that you consider Einstein to be a peacemaker who fought evil effectively, considering that he helped make the Bomb.
Finally, Tolkein didn't write for children. At least, he didn't write LotR for children. It's simply not a children's book. In fact, it's only recently that so many younger people have been reading it, which I suppose is nothing to attribute to our declining educational standards.
Tolkien had WAY too much time on his hands. Just think about it - spending all that time creating imaginary worlds, peoples, languages and events? With a huge appendix explaining it all? It's insane! Talk about wasting his time! Tolkien would have used his time much better if he had used it to cut the grass for an elderly lady, work as a volunteer in a soup kitchen, or collect money for the blind. Anyone who has the time to make so much time in his imaginary world, let alone write a stack of books about it clearly has WAY too much time on his hands
You don't know that he didn't do that. Frankly, I don't see you doing any good either, you're sitting around criticising other people instead.
First: Amazon's rating method--i.e, that all editions of the same work are included under one rating thread--is useless.
Damn straight. Thank you, thank you.
I can't stand this book! These fantasy things are really getting to me! I don't see how someone could read such un-true and so unbelievebly weird stuff! Sorry if I offended you
Maybe it's me, but I think that if you dislike an entire genre of books (like fantasy) you kindly refrain from criticising individual books in that genre. It's unfair to those of us who assume a book is being judged as compared to its fellows, instead of as an example of a group.
Tolkien is way over-rated. Read some Martin or Jordan instead.
Martin? Who? Anyway, Robert Jordan's overrated too. So are most popular authors. That's the sad fact of life. They get popular and all of a sudden, other people think they're the best ever, when they really aren't. Doesn't mean they aren't good, but they are still overrated.
I tried and tried again to get through these books in their entirety but haven't been able to do it. Who wants to read about this stuff anyway? The answer is: WEIRDOS! Stay away not only from these books, but from the people who read them.
Thank you. I have been refreshed and engli... oh, crap, no I haven't, I don't even know what you're talking about. That's not only a pointless insult, it's nonsensical too. It implies that "weirdos" are less preferable than those who criticise a book based on who reads it (and with no information either).
i love bunkbeds more than anything in the world!!.....mmmm cookies are good too......yummy
Amazon needs moderators. That's all I have to say on the subject.
one of the first Fantasy books i eva read, got me hooks, i have read many more since then
oh btw, the 1 is to get yur attention cuz of all the 10's out there i would give it a 10 also =)
See what I mean?
However, a handful of the positive reviews listed on this site were undoubtedly written by overweight, sarcastic, "intellectuals" who spent their youth playing "Dungeons and Dragons", watching "Star Trek" and "Dr. Who" and dreaming that some day a woman might actually look at them..... but back to my review.
New question. Is it possible to say "I don't like a book" without 1. not explaining why and 2. insulting the people who do like the book?
If your an adult don't bother with this farce, it passes itself off as an intellectual book but its really the product of an old arrogant man's daydreams.
And this. Why do you think Tolkein was arrogant? Can you comment on the book, please? You don't need to insult everyone associated with it, contrary to popular belief.
I'm done. Thanks for tolerating me. Djusk' a.
Quite frankly my only thought is I DON'T CARE WHO EVERYONE'S FATHER IS, IF YOU WANT ME TO KNOW THEN WRITE A PREQUEL, JUST TELL THE STORY IT IDIOTIC BRIT! I don't know how someone who wrote something as good as "The Hobbit" could produce this junk. I think what happened was he had a bunch of notes left over, and wanted to cash in by writing a sequel, so he threw all the details he had onto a shallow plot, but sense it was to complicated to be called "dumbed-down" like most money-making sequels noone could attack it. And
*sighs* I will refrain from mentioning that The Hobbit was the prequel, and LotR was the original. Actually, interesting fact, he didn't write LotR to sell a book, he wrote it so he'd have a place to use his conlangs realisticly. The books were written for the langauges, not the other way around.
The Lord Of The Rings Is Racist It is a disquised South African White supremist fairy tale.
Could you elaborate? Or explain how it's South African instead of British or American or Nazi white supremacy?
But this book fails because of its incessant praise of war. The Nazis were evil because of the Holocaust. What did the Allies do to stop that? Not much (didn't even bomb the tracks leading to the death camps). War is simply evil; the sad lesson of the 20th Century is that warriors only contribute to the problem (Hiroshima) and only peacemakers fight evil effectively. (MLK, Ghandi, Einstein)
Tolkein should be criticised for glorifing war because he: (1) wrote for children, is very popular, and (3)is credited with greatness.
The Nazis did evil things, such as the Holocaust. However, that has nothing to do with war, but with racism. It was our going to war that ended the Holocaust. And while I agree that Hiroshima was an evil thing, I find it strange that you consider Einstein to be a peacemaker who fought evil effectively, considering that he helped make the Bomb.
Finally, Tolkein didn't write for children. At least, he didn't write LotR for children. It's simply not a children's book. In fact, it's only recently that so many younger people have been reading it, which I suppose is nothing to attribute to our declining educational standards.
Tolkien had WAY too much time on his hands. Just think about it - spending all that time creating imaginary worlds, peoples, languages and events? With a huge appendix explaining it all? It's insane! Talk about wasting his time! Tolkien would have used his time much better if he had used it to cut the grass for an elderly lady, work as a volunteer in a soup kitchen, or collect money for the blind. Anyone who has the time to make so much time in his imaginary world, let alone write a stack of books about it clearly has WAY too much time on his hands
You don't know that he didn't do that. Frankly, I don't see you doing any good either, you're sitting around criticising other people instead.
First: Amazon's rating method--i.e, that all editions of the same work are included under one rating thread--is useless.
Damn straight. Thank you, thank you.
I can't stand this book! These fantasy things are really getting to me! I don't see how someone could read such un-true and so unbelievebly weird stuff! Sorry if I offended you
Maybe it's me, but I think that if you dislike an entire genre of books (like fantasy) you kindly refrain from criticising individual books in that genre. It's unfair to those of us who assume a book is being judged as compared to its fellows, instead of as an example of a group.
Tolkien is way over-rated. Read some Martin or Jordan instead.
Martin? Who? Anyway, Robert Jordan's overrated too. So are most popular authors. That's the sad fact of life. They get popular and all of a sudden, other people think they're the best ever, when they really aren't. Doesn't mean they aren't good, but they are still overrated.
I tried and tried again to get through these books in their entirety but haven't been able to do it. Who wants to read about this stuff anyway? The answer is: WEIRDOS! Stay away not only from these books, but from the people who read them.
Thank you. I have been refreshed and engli... oh, crap, no I haven't, I don't even know what you're talking about. That's not only a pointless insult, it's nonsensical too. It implies that "weirdos" are less preferable than those who criticise a book based on who reads it (and with no information either).
i love bunkbeds more than anything in the world!!.....mmmm cookies are good too......yummy
Amazon needs moderators. That's all I have to say on the subject.
one of the first Fantasy books i eva read, got me hooks, i have read many more since then
oh btw, the 1 is to get yur attention cuz of all the 10's out there i would give it a 10 also =)
See what I mean?
However, a handful of the positive reviews listed on this site were undoubtedly written by overweight, sarcastic, "intellectuals" who spent their youth playing "Dungeons and Dragons", watching "Star Trek" and "Dr. Who" and dreaming that some day a woman might actually look at them..... but back to my review.
New question. Is it possible to say "I don't like a book" without 1. not explaining why and 2. insulting the people who do like the book?
If your an adult don't bother with this farce, it passes itself off as an intellectual book but its really the product of an old arrogant man's daydreams.
And this. Why do you think Tolkein was arrogant? Can you comment on the book, please? You don't need to insult everyone associated with it, contrary to popular belief.
I'm done. Thanks for tolerating me. Djusk' a.
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Date: 2004-04-02 02:22 pm (UTC)Reminds me of the review that Egbert and Reaper gave to the Powerpuff Girls Movie. Have you heard it?
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Date: 2004-04-02 02:32 pm (UTC)And Tolkien practically invented fantasy as a genre. Therefore, he could never be overrated unless you hate all fantasy. (Ok, there are huge flaws in that argument. I don't care.)
I can't really see that letting just anybody review a book is a good thing... you get so much garbage...
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Date: 2004-04-02 04:05 pm (UTC)I think the Martin refers to George R. R. Martin, who is really excellent. I enjoy is books loads better than either Tolkein or Jordan, who I also despise.
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Date: 2004-04-02 08:47 pm (UTC)I have read the introduction which explains that Tolkein was changing the story and issuing rewrites to the publishers right up until the time of his death. His family even found extra stuff after he'd died. From what it said, the current edition is completely different, in certain areas, to the original.
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Date: 2004-04-03 04:47 am (UTC)I'll freely admit though that some parts of the books are really slow, and hard to read (*throttles Tom Bombadil*), without even mentioning full BOOKS that are like that (the aforementioned Sil and History of Middle Earth). And I can see how some people wouldn't like them.
*shrugs*
I like Tolkien. You don't like him, don't read his books, it's no skin off my back. I can't fathom why people should react badly if you don't like his books. Ok, he's credited as having started the fantasy genre, he's got a huge following of people who like the books, yadda, yadda, that doesn't give him a "get free out of jail" card that'll automagically make everybody like his books. Books are very personal things, you can like or dislike them and you have a right to your opinion.
And the Tolkien fans who go "ew, you're reading [insert author here]? you should read Tolkien instead!", then freak out when the answer is "I don't like Tolkien" are idiotic hypocrites and I'd throttle each and every one of them if I could.
*hops off the miniature soapbox*
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Date: 2004-04-02 02:22 pm (UTC)Reminds me of the review that Egbert and Reaper gave to the Powerpuff Girls Movie. Have you heard it?
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Date: 2004-04-02 02:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 02:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 02:32 pm (UTC)And Tolkien practically invented fantasy as a genre. Therefore, he could never be overrated unless you hate all fantasy. (Ok, there are huge flaws in that argument. I don't care.)
I can't really see that letting just anybody review a book is a good thing... you get so much garbage...
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Date: 2004-04-02 03:51 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2004-04-02 04:05 pm (UTC)I think the Martin refers to George R. R. Martin, who is really excellent. I enjoy is books loads better than either Tolkein or Jordan, who I also despise.
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Date: 2004-04-02 04:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 08:47 pm (UTC)I have read the introduction which explains that Tolkein was changing the story and issuing rewrites to the publishers right up until the time of his death. His family even found extra stuff after he'd died. From what it said, the current edition is completely different, in certain areas, to the original.
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Date: 2004-04-02 09:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-02 10:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-03 04:47 am (UTC)I'll freely admit though that some parts of the books are really slow, and hard to read (*throttles Tom Bombadil*), without even mentioning full BOOKS that are like that (the aforementioned Sil and History of Middle Earth). And I can see how some people wouldn't like them.
*shrugs*
I like Tolkien. You don't like him, don't read his books, it's no skin off my back. I can't fathom why people should react badly if you don't like his books. Ok, he's credited as having started the fantasy genre, he's got a huge following of people who like the books, yadda, yadda, that doesn't give him a "get free out of jail" card that'll automagically make everybody like his books. Books are very personal things, you can like or dislike them and you have a right to your opinion.
And the Tolkien fans who go "ew, you're reading [insert author here]? you should read Tolkien instead!", then freak out when the answer is "I don't like Tolkien" are idiotic hypocrites and I'd throttle each and every one of them if I could.
*hops off the miniature soapbox*