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Birdsongs.

No, bear with me here. This makes sense. See, in all these articles about autism, people get sniffy and say that "I'll never hear him say he loves me!!!" This is actually very similar to many articles I've read about people with deaf kids, except then it's often that they will never hear their parents say those words. And then somebody always says that, for this poor, unfortunate person, there are no birdsongs. It's always birds. They'll never hear the birds sing.

*listens to the birds for a bit*

You know what?

Birdsong is overrated. Do you know what birds are singing? They're singing "Get the fuck out of here" and "Hey, baby, let's do it" and "I've got a great big tonker" and "OUT! OUT! OUT! OFF MY LAWN, PUNK!" and that's about it.

Now, if *I* were deaf, or if I had a kid who was born deaf, I'd be a lot more concerned about not hearing sirens or car horns or gunshots and therefore might be endangered by this fact. But that's just me. I'm sure that, in the long run, it's more important to hear "I love you" and birdsong.

I mean, it must be, right?

(Yes, this is entirely random. Sorry.)

On a similar note, I often have wondered why people want to go back to the 50s. I know about the 50s. It was a veritible nightmare of racism, conformity, McCarthyism, sexism, and the Korean war. Who the hell wants to return to that? Other than the obvious, that is.

Date: 2005-06-17 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
Tags: rants

I LOL'd.

Date: 2005-06-17 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sporks5000.livejournal.com
woo conformity! I'd be the only different one for a change

THE ONLY ONE!!!

Date: 2005-06-17 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
the birdsongs go like car-alarms here.

'Twee-twee-twee-GHHHRRCHHK GHHHRRCHHK- WEEWEEWEE-TooWEE tooWEE'

Date: 2005-06-17 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mintogrubb.livejournal.com
I know what you say about birdsong to be true. I still likes it, though.
A Forest Ranger at Longleat was telling me recently that local birds have been mimicking mobile phone ringtones and driving people nuts!
So much for " Intelligent Design"!!

Date: 2005-06-17 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-chaos-by-699.livejournal.com
I'm not big on hearing people say they love me. I'm a bit cynical about, actually. Too many people who've said they loved me have completely failed to act in an even remotely loving manner. This makes me value action over words. I'd rather have someone who didn't love me do all the right things, or at least make the attempt, than have someone tell me they loved me and never back it up with their behavior.

I don't get what the big deal about birdsong is either. I've never heard birdsong that was pretty. Now, I can see feeling bad for someone who will never hear Beethoven. But they won't know what they're missing anyway.

Date: 2005-06-17 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polydad.livejournal.com
Shortly before my parents' 25th anniversary, my Mom complained to my Dad that he never said he loved her. He gave her an astonished look, and answered "I said that 25 years ago! I haven't had any reason to change my mind. It's still in effect."

She *did* get him trained to say "I love you" by the anniversary. That was 25 years ago.

best,

Joel. Who'll take his birds broiled, thank you kindly.

Date: 2005-06-17 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Bird song tends to annoy me and make me grumpy. But then, I mostly associate it with the coming of the new day and the damn cheery birds twirping their heads off while I'm tired and have work to finish.

I like music though. Not being able to hear great works of music is much sadder.

Your kids not being able to hear you say, I love you is pretty irrelevant. You can sign it. Or better yet - you can show your kids you love them by trying to be good to them and actually loving them. Wait, sorry, that's hard. Saying "I love you" is much easier.

Date: 2005-06-17 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com
Bird song is novel to me. In Miami, we don't have song birds-- we DO have peacocks, which make a godawful racket. So it was pretty cool to go out in spring and hear a bunch of birds advertising their large tonkers.

Funny, too.

Date: 2005-06-17 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beetlebomb.livejournal.com
Starlings fascinate me. Their eclectic litany of interesting sounds always grabs my attention!

Date: 2005-06-17 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com
There are plenty of ways to say "I love you" without speech. There's signing it, for example, or giving the kid a hug. The sign for "love" is the same as the sign for "hug" in ASL.

Date: 2005-06-17 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pehanoie.livejournal.com
But it's not songs, to me anyway. It's nothing I want to listen to just for the sake of the listening to it, as music is. Maybe I just never heard a species with a good "song" before.

Date: 2005-06-17 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornleaf.livejournal.com
"I've got a great big tonker"

Thank you, you just made my night!

*goes off to bed, still laughing*

Date: 2005-06-17 09:53 pm (UTC)
hopefulnebula: Mandelbrot Set with text "You can change the world in a tiny way" (Default)
From: [personal profile] hopefulnebula

Birdsong is overrated. Do you know what birds are singing? They're singing "Get the fuck out of here" and "Hey, baby, let's do it" and "I've got a great big tonker" and "OUT! OUT! OUT! OFF MY LAWN, PUNK!" and that's about it.


Can I metaquote that?

Date: 2005-06-17 11:31 pm (UTC)
rachelkachel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rachelkachel
Not being able to hear great works of music is much sadder.

That's my opinion. I really don't care that much about birdsong - maybe if I could identify them and actually listened, I would, but I don't. And people saying "I love you"? Exactly as you said, there are plenty of other ways to show it. Like hugs and stuff.

But I'd hate not to be able to hear music.

Date: 2005-06-17 11:31 pm (UTC)
ext_78: A picture of a plush animal. It looks a bit like a cross between a duck and a platypus. (Default)
From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Your kids not being able to hear you say, I love you is pretty irrelevant. You can sign it.

That's the first thought that popped into my mind when I read that bit, too.

Though perhaps those people think that spoken language is inherently superior, or perhaps the only "true" way of communicating.

Date: 2005-06-18 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brownkitty.livejournal.com
I hug my kids, I buy them toys, I spend time with them, I try and get them treats. And I tell them I love them.

I fuss at my friends when they're sick, or don't eat. I listen when someone wants to talk, if I can. I ask how people are doing, and try to pay attention to them. And I tell them I love them.

For these things, that seem so simple and automatic to me, I get told I'm a wonderful and rare person. That confuses the hell out of me...I mean, none of it's a difficult concept. What is so difficult to understand about "If you care you pay attention" ????

Date: 2005-06-25 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandoras-closet.livejournal.com
The fire alarm at my school always sounded like some kind of hysterically derranged bird to me.

Date: 2005-06-25 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
ours just go 'RRRREEEE REEEE RRREEEEEE!' at a pitch and volume that one can actually feel thier eardrums vibrating. the deaf could hear these things.

THE DEAD COULD.

Date: 2005-06-17 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiggaroo.livejournal.com
Tags: rants

I LOL'd.

Date: 2005-06-17 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sporks5000.livejournal.com
woo conformity! I'd be the only different one for a change

THE ONLY ONE!!!

Date: 2005-06-17 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
the birdsongs go like car-alarms here.

'Twee-twee-twee-GHHHRRCHHK GHHHRRCHHK- WEEWEEWEE-TooWEE tooWEE'

Date: 2005-06-17 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mintogrubb.livejournal.com
I know what you say about birdsong to be true. I still likes it, though.
A Forest Ranger at Longleat was telling me recently that local birds have been mimicking mobile phone ringtones and driving people nuts!
So much for " Intelligent Design"!!

Date: 2005-06-17 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-chaos-by-699.livejournal.com
I'm not big on hearing people say they love me. I'm a bit cynical about, actually. Too many people who've said they loved me have completely failed to act in an even remotely loving manner. This makes me value action over words. I'd rather have someone who didn't love me do all the right things, or at least make the attempt, than have someone tell me they loved me and never back it up with their behavior.

I don't get what the big deal about birdsong is either. I've never heard birdsong that was pretty. Now, I can see feeling bad for someone who will never hear Beethoven. But they won't know what they're missing anyway.

Date: 2005-06-17 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polydad.livejournal.com
Shortly before my parents' 25th anniversary, my Mom complained to my Dad that he never said he loved her. He gave her an astonished look, and answered "I said that 25 years ago! I haven't had any reason to change my mind. It's still in effect."

She *did* get him trained to say "I love you" by the anniversary. That was 25 years ago.

best,

Joel. Who'll take his birds broiled, thank you kindly.

Date: 2005-06-17 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Bird song tends to annoy me and make me grumpy. But then, I mostly associate it with the coming of the new day and the damn cheery birds twirping their heads off while I'm tired and have work to finish.

I like music though. Not being able to hear great works of music is much sadder.

Your kids not being able to hear you say, I love you is pretty irrelevant. You can sign it. Or better yet - you can show your kids you love them by trying to be good to them and actually loving them. Wait, sorry, that's hard. Saying "I love you" is much easier.

Date: 2005-06-17 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com
Bird song is novel to me. In Miami, we don't have song birds-- we DO have peacocks, which make a godawful racket. So it was pretty cool to go out in spring and hear a bunch of birds advertising their large tonkers.

Funny, too.

Date: 2005-06-17 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beetlebomb.livejournal.com
Starlings fascinate me. Their eclectic litany of interesting sounds always grabs my attention!

Date: 2005-06-17 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com
There are plenty of ways to say "I love you" without speech. There's signing it, for example, or giving the kid a hug. The sign for "love" is the same as the sign for "hug" in ASL.

Date: 2005-06-17 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pehanoie.livejournal.com
But it's not songs, to me anyway. It's nothing I want to listen to just for the sake of the listening to it, as music is. Maybe I just never heard a species with a good "song" before.

Date: 2005-06-17 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thornleaf.livejournal.com
"I've got a great big tonker"

Thank you, you just made my night!

*goes off to bed, still laughing*

Date: 2005-06-17 09:53 pm (UTC)
hopefulnebula: The last verse of "Galaxy Song" by Monty Python. (Bugger All)
From: [personal profile] hopefulnebula

Birdsong is overrated. Do you know what birds are singing? They're singing "Get the fuck out of here" and "Hey, baby, let's do it" and "I've got a great big tonker" and "OUT! OUT! OUT! OFF MY LAWN, PUNK!" and that's about it.


Can I metaquote that?

Date: 2005-06-17 11:31 pm (UTC)
rachelkachel: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rachelkachel
Not being able to hear great works of music is much sadder.

That's my opinion. I really don't care that much about birdsong - maybe if I could identify them and actually listened, I would, but I don't. And people saying "I love you"? Exactly as you said, there are plenty of other ways to show it. Like hugs and stuff.

But I'd hate not to be able to hear music.

Date: 2005-06-17 11:31 pm (UTC)
ext_78: A picture of a plush animal. It looks a bit like a cross between a duck and a platypus. (Default)
From: [identity profile] pne.livejournal.com
Your kids not being able to hear you say, I love you is pretty irrelevant. You can sign it.

That's the first thought that popped into my mind when I read that bit, too.

Though perhaps those people think that spoken language is inherently superior, or perhaps the only "true" way of communicating.

Date: 2005-06-18 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brownkitty.livejournal.com
I hug my kids, I buy them toys, I spend time with them, I try and get them treats. And I tell them I love them.

I fuss at my friends when they're sick, or don't eat. I listen when someone wants to talk, if I can. I ask how people are doing, and try to pay attention to them. And I tell them I love them.

For these things, that seem so simple and automatic to me, I get told I'm a wonderful and rare person. That confuses the hell out of me...I mean, none of it's a difficult concept. What is so difficult to understand about "If you care you pay attention" ????

Date: 2005-06-25 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandoras-closet.livejournal.com
The fire alarm at my school always sounded like some kind of hysterically derranged bird to me.

Date: 2005-06-25 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
ours just go 'RRRREEEE REEEE RRREEEEEE!' at a pitch and volume that one can actually feel thier eardrums vibrating. the deaf could hear these things.

THE DEAD COULD.

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