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Openly gay soldier wants to be allowed to be openly gay and serve. Oh teh h0rr0rz!

Date: 2005-04-07 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
The sad thing is, I can't understand not allowing gays to be open. Can't.

It's like how I feel about flying-- I can't mentally comprehend not having fun. It's one of the few things I can't empathize to a person about. Hatin' gay people is another.

I mean, being gay is about as important as being straight. so what? I'm more concerned about your shootin'arm/your medical skill/your languages that you speak. Well, if I was a grunt, I would.

Date: 2005-04-07 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I can explain at least one point of view that some people hold that makes sense:

Some people experience considerable physical pain from flying. For most people, the pressure change is minor or they can easily adjust to it. But for some people it's very hard on their bodies.

I have trouble since my surgeries where my eyes just don't like pressure change. While I can do things to relieve the pressure in my ears, there is nothing I can do for my eyes. My brother is sensitive to pressure change and on some flights his ears have even started bleeding from it.

I think in cases like that it makes complete sense not to have fun while flying. This is also why I am very tolerant of babies crying on planes, it's much harder for them to deal with the pressure changes, and physical pain is a fair reason for making a fuss.

Date: 2005-04-07 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
aye. Makes sense.

I've never had a problem with ear pressure *pops them without even grabbing her nose*, and I've never thought about the eyes thing. do'h.

I can understand the little kids crying, but when they hit about 4 or five, you can teach them to pop thier ears. That's when they make me feel miserable on planes.

Date: 2005-04-07 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Or at least teach them to be miserable quietly. I flew a lot as a child, my family is a bit spread out. So, I've been flying regularly ever since I was a baby. And I remember it was very painful during landing (and probably take-off), but I didn't make that much of a vocal fuss once I was a kid. I have no clue what I did as a baby, but I probably cried. If you can't talk with the child yet, it's understandable as they can't understand what is going on and need to signal that there is a problem. You can't tell them, okay, I know, it'll be better soon. But as a kid, well, it's the kind of pain that should make you quiet anyway. It's more the squirmy kind of pain, if that makes sense. You squirm and suffer and try to block out the world. Screaming doesn't help.

Usually if I see kids making a fuss on an airplane it's not because they're in pain anyway, usually they're just bored and restless.

Date: 2005-04-07 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
man, we always had goodie bags with coloring books ect. S'what all kids should have for Airplane trips.

And we would always beg for the Gameboy with Tetris. <3 me some Tetris.

I understand you on the pain thing.

Date: 2005-04-07 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenix-blue.livejournal.com
I think Harry Truman had the best approach when he desegregated the Armed Forces back in '49 or '50: this is how it's going to be. If you don't like it, get out!

On the other hand, if someone who's gay wants to serve - if it really means that much to them - they have to make a decision. Be open and leave the service, or be celibate and stay in. It's not a fair choice, but everyone who raises his right hand knows, them's the brakes.

Date: 2005-04-07 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
The sad thing is, I can't understand not allowing gays to be open. Can't.

It's like how I feel about flying-- I can't mentally comprehend not having fun. It's one of the few things I can't empathize to a person about. Hatin' gay people is another.

I mean, being gay is about as important as being straight. so what? I'm more concerned about your shootin'arm/your medical skill/your languages that you speak. Well, if I was a grunt, I would.

Date: 2005-04-07 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I can explain at least one point of view that some people hold that makes sense:

Some people experience considerable physical pain from flying. For most people, the pressure change is minor or they can easily adjust to it. But for some people it's very hard on their bodies.

I have trouble since my surgeries where my eyes just don't like pressure change. While I can do things to relieve the pressure in my ears, there is nothing I can do for my eyes. My brother is sensitive to pressure change and on some flights his ears have even started bleeding from it.

I think in cases like that it makes complete sense not to have fun while flying. This is also why I am very tolerant of babies crying on planes, it's much harder for them to deal with the pressure changes, and physical pain is a fair reason for making a fuss.

Date: 2005-04-07 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
aye. Makes sense.

I've never had a problem with ear pressure *pops them without even grabbing her nose*, and I've never thought about the eyes thing. do'h.

I can understand the little kids crying, but when they hit about 4 or five, you can teach them to pop thier ears. That's when they make me feel miserable on planes.

Date: 2005-04-07 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
Or at least teach them to be miserable quietly. I flew a lot as a child, my family is a bit spread out. So, I've been flying regularly ever since I was a baby. And I remember it was very painful during landing (and probably take-off), but I didn't make that much of a vocal fuss once I was a kid. I have no clue what I did as a baby, but I probably cried. If you can't talk with the child yet, it's understandable as they can't understand what is going on and need to signal that there is a problem. You can't tell them, okay, I know, it'll be better soon. But as a kid, well, it's the kind of pain that should make you quiet anyway. It's more the squirmy kind of pain, if that makes sense. You squirm and suffer and try to block out the world. Screaming doesn't help.

Usually if I see kids making a fuss on an airplane it's not because they're in pain anyway, usually they're just bored and restless.

Date: 2005-04-07 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com
man, we always had goodie bags with coloring books ect. S'what all kids should have for Airplane trips.

And we would always beg for the Gameboy with Tetris. <3 me some Tetris.

I understand you on the pain thing.

Date: 2005-04-07 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phoenix-blue.livejournal.com
I think Harry Truman had the best approach when he desegregated the Armed Forces back in '49 or '50: this is how it's going to be. If you don't like it, get out!

On the other hand, if someone who's gay wants to serve - if it really means that much to them - they have to make a decision. Be open and leave the service, or be celibate and stay in. It's not a fair choice, but everyone who raises his right hand knows, them's the brakes.

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