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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2004-12-14 02:53 pm

And Peterson was sentenced to death...

Why? Because the evidence was so compelling?

No.

He didn't show enough emotion during the trial.

(Thanks, [livejournal.com profile] rpeate)

Okay, youse guys can now talk about how horrible it is, because I'm too cold to do so.

[identity profile] auryanne.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, have you been following the case at ALL?

I really didn't expect this level of gullibility from you.

[identity profile] dkmnow.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe you should report us all to The Almighty, so that He may smite us for our criminal stupidity.

After all, that IS what He put you on the Earth for, isn't it?

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[identity profile] rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like something out of a Camus novel. Next they'll be sentencing people for not crying at their mothers' funerals.

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that from the Stranger? Seems familiar, somehow.

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking...

[identity profile] dkmnow.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
GOD, I hate that "no sign of emotion" crap!

GRRRRR!

[identity profile] dandelion.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
He's guilty, and people who show no emotion are more likely to be repeat offenders.

It wasn't so much that he didn't cry- it seemed more like he did not give a damn at all at any point. I mean, acting like everything's completely normal when you've just killed your wife?

I personally do not agree with the death penalty on principal, but to suggest he's only sentenced because he didn't cry is completely silly.

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[identity profile] thren0dy.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I go back and forth about the death penalty. In principle, I think it's wrong because there should NEVER be the possibility that an innocent man might get executed. When I think about the horrible things that some monsters masquerading as humans do to people, sometimes I think they deserve it.

But if that is the sole reason he got the death penalty, that is messed up, to say the least.

[identity profile] threnody.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny we should meet like this. ;)

I agree. Sort of. I agree with the death penalty in principle, but when it comes to fact? I really don't have any trouble with frying someone who did something really heinous, but at the same time who are we to decide this person has to die? Also, I'm not really comfortable with killing someone who might be innocent.

IMO, there is not enough evidence that this person is guilty. It seems a pretty shaky case all over, and order his death even based on that alone just is Not On.

[identity profile] moggymania.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The CNN article is seriously slanting that for some reason... Quote directly from the SF Chronicle today in How They Decided He Should Die (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/12/14/MNGL7ABKFJ1.DTL):

"The evidence was circumstantial from the start, but the jurors said a few simple truths stood out. The bodies of Laci Peterson and the couple's unborn son washed up near where Scott Peterson said he had been fishing the day she was reported missing. Peterson told a web of lies to those around him. And his odd behavior -- including continuing to woo his secret girlfriend as police, family and total strangers were looking for his missing wife -- were not the actions of a man who had been wrongly accused.
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The jurors said that they had finally concluded that death was the right sentence for Peterson because he had betrayed the woman closest to him and the unborn son whose name the couple had already chosen."

I have no idea why CNN over-emphasized the "emotion during the trial" aspect, as the jury was fairly clear that it was a number of factors, particularly his *actions*, that drove them to conclude that he was guilty (and later that he deserved the death penalty).

[identity profile] deathchibi.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm mostly miffed that if Lacey had been hispanic, poor, or anything along those lines, few people would have paid attention to the case at all.

I kind of figured it was him all along, for other reasons, though.

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, well, Scott is good looking. Like Sam Rami's comentary on Ju-On, it may not be fair, but the camera likes attractive people.

It was much the same with the Bobbet case. They were good-looking people in a classical psychodrama.

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Uh...could I get some more chalk over here?

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[identity profile] serendipitous24.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
In my opinion, I am suprised that his defense didn't use the "no emotion" thing to their advantage. Conuly, you have taken psych courses, right? What the jury is getting at is the psychopath characteristics he displays ... No remorse or emotion for things wrongly done. This isn't the same as per say an autistic's possible lack of emotion, you see? I was shocked that they didn't try to bargain for an insanity plea on Scott Peterson. I bet they try, with an appeal. I hope you know that I am not arguing, just stating an observation. :)

[identity profile] carakarena.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you.

[identity profile] auryanne.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, have you been following the case at ALL?

I really didn't expect this level of gullibility from you.

[identity profile] dkmnow.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe you should report us all to The Almighty, so that He may smite us for our criminal stupidity.

After all, that IS what He put you on the Earth for, isn't it?

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[identity profile] rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like something out of a Camus novel. Next they'll be sentencing people for not crying at their mothers' funerals.

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that from the Stranger? Seems familiar, somehow.

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GOD, I hate that "no sign of emotion" crap!

GRRRRR!

[identity profile] dandelion.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 12:56 pm (UTC)(link)
He's guilty, and people who show no emotion are more likely to be repeat offenders.

It wasn't so much that he didn't cry- it seemed more like he did not give a damn at all at any point. I mean, acting like everything's completely normal when you've just killed your wife?

I personally do not agree with the death penalty on principal, but to suggest he's only sentenced because he didn't cry is completely silly.

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[identity profile] thren0dy.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I go back and forth about the death penalty. In principle, I think it's wrong because there should NEVER be the possibility that an innocent man might get executed. When I think about the horrible things that some monsters masquerading as humans do to people, sometimes I think they deserve it.

But if that is the sole reason he got the death penalty, that is messed up, to say the least.

[identity profile] threnody.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny we should meet like this. ;)

I agree. Sort of. I agree with the death penalty in principle, but when it comes to fact? I really don't have any trouble with frying someone who did something really heinous, but at the same time who are we to decide this person has to die? Also, I'm not really comfortable with killing someone who might be innocent.

IMO, there is not enough evidence that this person is guilty. It seems a pretty shaky case all over, and order his death even based on that alone just is Not On.

[identity profile] moggymania.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
The CNN article is seriously slanting that for some reason... Quote directly from the SF Chronicle today in How They Decided He Should Die (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/12/14/MNGL7ABKFJ1.DTL):

"The evidence was circumstantial from the start, but the jurors said a few simple truths stood out. The bodies of Laci Peterson and the couple's unborn son washed up near where Scott Peterson said he had been fishing the day she was reported missing. Peterson told a web of lies to those around him. And his odd behavior -- including continuing to woo his secret girlfriend as police, family and total strangers were looking for his missing wife -- were not the actions of a man who had been wrongly accused.
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The jurors said that they had finally concluded that death was the right sentence for Peterson because he had betrayed the woman closest to him and the unborn son whose name the couple had already chosen."

I have no idea why CNN over-emphasized the "emotion during the trial" aspect, as the jury was fairly clear that it was a number of factors, particularly his *actions*, that drove them to conclude that he was guilty (and later that he deserved the death penalty).

[identity profile] deathchibi.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm mostly miffed that if Lacey had been hispanic, poor, or anything along those lines, few people would have paid attention to the case at all.

I kind of figured it was him all along, for other reasons, though.

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, well, Scott is good looking. Like Sam Rami's comentary on Ju-On, it may not be fair, but the camera likes attractive people.

It was much the same with the Bobbet case. They were good-looking people in a classical psychodrama.

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[identity profile] serendipitous24.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
In my opinion, I am suprised that his defense didn't use the "no emotion" thing to their advantage. Conuly, you have taken psych courses, right? What the jury is getting at is the psychopath characteristics he displays ... No remorse or emotion for things wrongly done. This isn't the same as per say an autistic's possible lack of emotion, you see? I was shocked that they didn't try to bargain for an insanity plea on Scott Peterson. I bet they try, with an appeal. I hope you know that I am not arguing, just stating an observation. :)

[identity profile] carakarena.livejournal.com 2004-12-14 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you.