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[personal profile] conuly
I don't remember how it came up, but a few days ago she commented that 51 isn't a prime number, even though it sure feels like it ought to be one.

I feel the exact same way!

And it's really silly, because 51 = 3 x 17 (I memorized it because I got tired of confusing it for a prime number) and it should be obvious with any two digit number whether or not those digits add up to a multiple of 3. (And in a base 10 system, if they do, that means the number is divisible by 3 and, of course, not prime.)

Nevertheless, even after memorizing the factors, I can never quite shake the feeling that 51 ought to be a prime number. And apparently, neither can Mommy.

Date: 2022-03-08 06:52 am (UTC)
topaz_eyes: bluejay in left profile looking upwards (Default)
From: [personal profile] topaz_eyes
Apparently a product of 2 prime numbers is called a "semiprime." Today I learned!

Date: 2022-03-08 10:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] crystalpyramid
Hmm, it's the odd start right? Like it's clearly 21+30, or 81-30, so it's got to be divisible by 3.

21
51
81
111 -- does this feel prime too?
141
171
201

Although with numbers in the hundreds we just don't expect to know in the same way.

Date: 2022-03-08 03:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jack
Yeah, it definitely feels prime to me too, I'm not quite sure why. I think numbers where each digit is prime look more prime even though it doesn't work like that.

Date: 2022-03-08 03:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] larryhammer
Math nerd here (I even have a degree to prove it). I stumble on this as well.

Date: 2022-03-08 04:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] melannen
31, 41, 61, and 71 are all prime so it just stands to reason!

Date: 2022-03-08 05:09 pm (UTC)
melannen: Commander Valentine of Alpha Squad Seven, a red-haired female Nick Fury in space, smoking contemplatively (Default)
From: [personal profile] melannen
91, annoyingly, also is not. :(

Date: 2022-03-08 05:26 pm (UTC)
hilarita: stoat hiding under a log (Default)
From: [personal profile] hilarita
It doesn't feel much like a prime to me, either :-)

And then there's Groethendieck's Prime - 57. Which is *obviously* 3 less than 60, which is obviously a multiple of 3, but if very famous pure mathematicians don't have a good feeling for what's a prime, I think that's fine for the rest of us.

Date: 2022-03-08 06:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reynardo
It's one of the "sneaky not-primes" that get slipped into tests as "pick the prime number" - 51, 57, 87 and 91, because even if you've learned your times tables up to 12 x 12, these slip just outside them.

Date: 2022-03-09 03:47 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] adafrog
Interesting.

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