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But I gotta say, I'm a little bit surprised to hear them admit it aloud, without even pausing to consider what they're really saying.

(Not shocking: Non-European students and refugees already in Ukraine, now fleeing or fleeing again, are having troubles at the border. Because of course they are.)

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gwydion

The treatment of the African students trying to flee is infuriating, and it's not like their treatment of the Afghan refugees can be forgotten.

From:

conuly

Or forgiven.

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kaffy_r

Yeah, I've been watching that whole situation with no surprise.

From:

conuly

"But now these people are blond!"

Like, all those assholes can fuck off and seriously reconsider everything they've ever believed over their lives.

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oloriel

It's absolutely disgusting. Not surprising, unfortunately, but shocking that they aren't even subtle about it. If they tried to cover it up, at least that would suggest some shame.

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sabotabby

Ever.

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pauamma

It went downhill very fast from the first warning sign I'm aware of (Feb 25, Bulgaria's prime minister, see https://twitter.com/TihomirSabchev/status/1497264454236610563), to pundits everywhere in Europe bemoaning it was happening to "people who look like us - sooooo unfair" to Poland border police blocking African refugees from entering and IIRC assaulting them in the process. I haven't kept track of goings-on in other European countries, but France (where I live, and where, for context, the Overton window and gov't stance have both shifted significantly toward right-wing authoritarianism in the past 1.5 to 2 years), I don't think any such reckoning will happen anytime soon. If ever.

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conuly

It's not just in Europe, but I've been noting an increasing shift towards right-wing authoritarianism everywhere for at least the past decade. Trump was a highly visible example of that, but he's far from alone.

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conuly

Or at least, idk, self-awareness?

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kaffy_r

Indeed. I try to hope that it's a worldwide convulsion of humanity's worst impulses, in response to the slow (too slow, of course) worldwide motion towards progress, equality and equity, and that the convulsion will end. But I can't keep that belief much anymore. And even if it's true in the long run, in the short run people will still suffer and die because of those worst impulses.

That's a truly awkward paragraph; I hope it isn't too unclear.

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oloriel

IDK, they do seem to be self-aware. They just aren't aware that their attitude is inappropriate.

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schneefink

Same. Like, I thought most would at least try to be a little more subtle about it.

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conuly

Like, pretend not to be bigots at least!

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readerjane

Not surprising, but so discouraging.

‘Cause I started seeing stories about all the help being rallied for the refugees, and thought, “Are we actually evolving?” And then it turned out, it was help for the white refugees.