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I don't have the energy, and I frankly refuse.

However, I am reading what people post on my FList.

First, apparently the shooter unstable. Paranoid conspiracies involving brainwashing and mind control was the least of it.

That is tragic for a number of reasons, not least of which is that it gives the people who came up with this violent rhetoric a way out! They're going to go "Oh, he was crazy" and "oh, he's insane" and "oh, it's not OUR fault he took our jokes seriously" and they're not going to get what they deserve! (And to be clear, what the hatemongers deserve is to be humiliated and permanently voted out of office. Not, god forbid, any form of bodily harm, up to and including cold-blooded murder.) They're going to weasel out of it! Nevermind that that sort of talk was shameful and unconscionable before anything ever came of it. Nevermind that it could as easily have been somebody less easy to brush away who took them up on their "jokes". (And if we're going with paranoid conspiracy theories... this is the internet. Can any of us prove this guy's videos were up there a week ago? Then again, these are the people who think that if you pull something off the internet, it's like it's never there and people will be taken in if you claim they were really surveyor's marks. Let's not give them too much credit for cleverness.)

Of course, if the threats and the images were all okay, all on the up-and-up, they wouldn't be scrambling to excuse those now. Sure, okay, this guy was mentally ill. But I don't know, it's my understanding that this sort of thing doesn't exist in a vacuum. His ideas still came from *somewhere*, his actions still had *some* cause.

And of course, they're now looking for a second suspect. Edit: Strike that, seems he was actually just a cab driver. Well, that's some good news.

I don't know. I can't even put one word in front of the other right now. If you don't mind graphic images (that's a serious warning!) you might read this post on the matter.

Date: 2011-01-09 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com
Yes Yes Yes Fucking Yes. That is all I have to say at this time.

Date: 2011-01-09 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kynn.livejournal.com
Second "suspect" was cleared, he was just a cab driver.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com
Shooter might have ties to the anti-Semitic, conservative org Renaissance Group.

Date: 2011-01-09 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
I assumed the shooter was crazy before I knew anything about it. That isn't a way out. That is why they are responsible.

We are a country of millions. Over a hundred million, I believe. We will always have paranoid, violent, unstable people in our society. We will always have undiagnosed ones in our society. This is a given.

They knew that before they started their rhetoric. They knew that this sort of rhetoric is the sort that tends to tip this sort of crazy into action. That is why they are responsible. The shooter is crazy, making him less responsible. It's unfortunate. He needed help. But people like him will always be out there. Always. Always, always, always.

It's the sane people who have a responsibility to not aim them at people. And they knew they were sending people like him at targets, and they did not care. That's criminal negligence to my mind.

Date: 2011-01-09 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leora.livejournal.com
That's more people than a brain can really fathom.

Date: 2011-01-10 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ihcoyc.livejournal.com
Oklahoma City. The Holocaust Museum shooting. More than thirty five years of anti-abortion murders, bombings, and stalkings. You don't have to be Batman to see a pattern emerging.

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Date: 2011-01-10 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marveen.livejournal.com
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