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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2005-06-13 09:00 am

Y'know, I recognize that this is an unpopular view...

But I feel almost sorry for the Phelps'. It can't be easy going through life without an original thought in your head. And all that hatred! Can you imagine what their schedules must look like?

6:30 Wake up, pray to God to thank him for not killing me
6:45 Shower
7:00 Eat breakfast, pray to God to thank him for feeding me
7:30 Hate gay people
9:00 Pray to God to kill gay people
9:15 Hate non-Christians
10:00 Read the Bible, but not the stuff about loving others
11:00 Read the Bible, but not the stuff about keeping kosher
12:00 Lunch, pray to God to thank him for feeding me, ask him to kill people he (and I!) hate
12:30 Hate gay people....

And on and on and on. When is there time to do things like, say, garden, or work, or not be a fucking asshole?

Poor, unfortunate, deluded souls.

[identity profile] rpeate.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
I feel very sorry for all such miserable wretches. I feel sorry for Hitler. I feel sorry for O. J. Simpson. These are human beings whose irrationalities, whose insanities, were left unchecked. They destroyed themselves as well as others. This world does not have adequate protections against insanity and irrationality--for Society in general or for the irrational and insane. Both Society and the irrational need such protections.

[identity profile] satyrblade.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
That guy's closet couldn't be more obvious if he painted it with flourescent neon paint.

I keep waiting for the inevitable disclosure that he's been creeping around glory holes, crusing leather bars or posting to hardcore gay porn sites under "Godcumsub1."

[identity profile] sporks5000.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
a graduation? what kind of idiot is he? he probably could have had much more support if he picketed the normal functionnig of the school. Students would have skipped to join something like that, but a graduation is far too sentimental for anyone in their right mind to attack it.

Not that I agree with him or want him to have gotten a bigger crowd. I'm just trying to argue that this decision was obviously illogical and borderline insane.

[identity profile] absurdixie.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
"If homosexuality is OK, then so is incest and bestiality," Phelps-Roper said.

Well, not really... seeing how the other two are ILLEGAL! And seeing how homosexuals are consenting and are not related. What the hell are these people on? I think they're just looking for excuses, really.

[personal profile] rho 2005-06-13 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Your logic there is faulty. There are plenty of things which are legal which I consider immoral, and which are illegal but I consider to be OK. There are all sorts of reasons for this sort of problem, ranging from outdated laws, to people disagreeing, to necessity of protecting other activites, and so on. People preaching bigotry an intolerance is something I find abhorent and aboslutely not OK, but it is legal, as well it should be. On the other hand, smoking marijuana is illegal in most countries, even though I don't have a problem with it. Trying to claim legality as the main difference between these different activities is like trying to say that the law is infallible, and that we should never do anything like campaigning for changes to the law.

Of course, Phelps-Roper's logic is even more faulty, but I hate to see this sort of thing challenged by faulty logic, especially when there are so many much, much better reasons why what they say is wrong. The main, obvious one is that homosexuality, incest and bestiality are completely different things. You might as well say "if cheese is OK, then so is incest and bestiality".

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[identity profile] yadfothgildloc.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
He makes those of us in the world who take our religion (whatever it is) look like hate-filled fuckups. But, I feel bad for his kids.

[identity profile] meryls-corner.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
What was sad was the part about his daughter- because she probably would've turned out completely different if she wasn't raised to believe this stuff. So in a way he ruined her.

[identity profile] xandiwillflailx.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
i agree, i feel sorry for his 24987234 children and grandchildren whose lives he just RUINED. but not him. unless someone ripped off his frontal lobe when he was a child (woot, the things you learn from SVU).

[identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
HAHAHAHA!! if homosexulaity is okay, then so is incest and beastiality. BWAHAHAHAA!!

Does this mean that I can go fuck my brother who is giraffe?

[identity profile] yadfothgildloc.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
No. That would be evil, and everyone else would go to hell.

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[identity profile] sophysduckling.livejournal.com 2005-06-18 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Gah! It's not just about gay people! It's about Americans in general, too! Phelps's crowd runs this site (http://godhatesamerica.com) in addition to that other one. Given that they picketed *Reagan's--Reagan's* funeral, I think (hope?) that they're actually a minority, even among more fundamentalist branches of Christianity. They're just noticed a *lot* more frequently than they statistically deserve because they're...like...insane. "God struck down the Columbia!!!!!"

[identity profile] rpeate.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
I feel very sorry for all such miserable wretches. I feel sorry for Hitler. I feel sorry for O. J. Simpson. These are human beings whose irrationalities, whose insanities, were left unchecked. They destroyed themselves as well as others. This world does not have adequate protections against insanity and irrationality--for Society in general or for the irrational and insane. Both Society and the irrational need such protections.

[identity profile] satyrblade.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
That guy's closet couldn't be more obvious if he painted it with flourescent neon paint.

I keep waiting for the inevitable disclosure that he's been creeping around glory holes, crusing leather bars or posting to hardcore gay porn sites under "Godcumsub1."

[identity profile] sporks5000.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
a graduation? what kind of idiot is he? he probably could have had much more support if he picketed the normal functionnig of the school. Students would have skipped to join something like that, but a graduation is far too sentimental for anyone in their right mind to attack it.

Not that I agree with him or want him to have gotten a bigger crowd. I'm just trying to argue that this decision was obviously illogical and borderline insane.

[identity profile] absurdixie.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
"If homosexuality is OK, then so is incest and bestiality," Phelps-Roper said.

Well, not really... seeing how the other two are ILLEGAL! And seeing how homosexuals are consenting and are not related. What the hell are these people on? I think they're just looking for excuses, really.

[personal profile] rho 2005-06-13 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Your logic there is faulty. There are plenty of things which are legal which I consider immoral, and which are illegal but I consider to be OK. There are all sorts of reasons for this sort of problem, ranging from outdated laws, to people disagreeing, to necessity of protecting other activites, and so on. People preaching bigotry an intolerance is something I find abhorent and aboslutely not OK, but it is legal, as well it should be. On the other hand, smoking marijuana is illegal in most countries, even though I don't have a problem with it. Trying to claim legality as the main difference between these different activities is like trying to say that the law is infallible, and that we should never do anything like campaigning for changes to the law.

Of course, Phelps-Roper's logic is even more faulty, but I hate to see this sort of thing challenged by faulty logic, especially when there are so many much, much better reasons why what they say is wrong. The main, obvious one is that homosexuality, incest and bestiality are completely different things. You might as well say "if cheese is OK, then so is incest and bestiality".

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[identity profile] yadfothgildloc.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
He makes those of us in the world who take our religion (whatever it is) look like hate-filled fuckups. But, I feel bad for his kids.

[identity profile] meryls-corner.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
What was sad was the part about his daughter- because she probably would've turned out completely different if she wasn't raised to believe this stuff. So in a way he ruined her.

[identity profile] xandiwillflailx.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
i agree, i feel sorry for his 24987234 children and grandchildren whose lives he just RUINED. but not him. unless someone ripped off his frontal lobe when he was a child (woot, the things you learn from SVU).

[identity profile] jackshoegazer.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 11:45 am (UTC)(link)
HAHAHAHA!! if homosexulaity is okay, then so is incest and beastiality. BWAHAHAHAA!!

Does this mean that I can go fuck my brother who is giraffe?

[identity profile] yadfothgildloc.livejournal.com 2005-06-13 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
No. That would be evil, and everyone else would go to hell.

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[identity profile] sophysduckling.livejournal.com 2005-06-18 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Gah! It's not just about gay people! It's about Americans in general, too! Phelps's crowd runs this site (http://godhatesamerica.com) in addition to that other one. Given that they picketed *Reagan's--Reagan's* funeral, I think (hope?) that they're actually a minority, even among more fundamentalist branches of Christianity. They're just noticed a *lot* more frequently than they statistically deserve because they're...like...insane. "God struck down the Columbia!!!!!"