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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2005-12-01 01:21 am
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Fine! You've convinced me!

I'll do my best to see the Narnia movie. I hope you're happy!

It's been a while since I've read the books, so at least it can't ruin anything. Probably. Well, not worse than realizing that they were just chock-full of Christian symbolism did. Symbolism. What a way to ruin a good book....
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[identity profile] precia.livejournal.com 2005-12-03 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
When you say "first book", do you mean The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe or The Magician's Nephew?
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[identity profile] precia.livejournal.com 2005-12-03 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Second to last. The Last Battle is the very last one (as well as being the last one printed).

[identity profile] precia.livejournal.com 2005-12-03 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It was the first one written, and in my opinion, the first book that should be read. There's debate about this, and so, I was wondering.

My boxset (from the early 90s) has them in publishing order, while most of the newer ones are in chronological order. I stand by reading The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe first, because it's actually interesting (and has such a sense of wonder!). The Magician's Nephew is an origins book, and I find it to be rather dry unless you actually care about Narnia already.

[identity profile] snale.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm boycotting, simply because of the entirely (http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=58254) gross (http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/living/13291474.htm) way (http://www.azcentral.com/ent/movies/articles/1008narniamarket1008.html) Disney's been marketing the thing.

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That article is pretty sickening... just the attitude. "No one can enjoy the movie without understanding the Christian subtext!"

I did a pretty good job of reading the book and being oblivious to the Christian subtext, until it was pointed out to me.

[identity profile] snale.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the thing -- I think the books were really enjoyable without thinking too much about the Christian symbolism. (And actually, it's debatable how "Christian" that symbolism really is (http://www.newyorker.com/printables/critics/051121crat_atlarge).) I'm willing to bet the movie probably doesn't hit you over the head with it, either.

Unfortunately, Disney has chosen to play the religion card (while pretending they're not (http://washingtontimes.com/national/20051130-111658-3104r.htm), in other markets (http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4443248.stm)). So they're not only pushing it as a great Christian movie, they're lying about promoting it as a Christian movie at all.

And that just leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I once mentioned to a friend that Narnia just reeked of Christian symbolism.

"That's bullshit! The author was an atheist."

Later the friend and I parted ways forever, and I was wondering why an atheist would write Narnia. Then I found out that he was a devout Catholic.

Most of my other friends say that you can look past the symbolism and enjoy the story. I honestly haven't tried. Either way, I want to see the movie, because I liked the books as a kid.
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[identity profile] precia.livejournal.com 2005-12-03 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
When you say "first book", do you mean The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe or The Magician's Nephew?
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[identity profile] precia.livejournal.com 2005-12-03 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Second to last. The Last Battle is the very last one (as well as being the last one printed).

[identity profile] precia.livejournal.com 2005-12-03 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It was the first one written, and in my opinion, the first book that should be read. There's debate about this, and so, I was wondering.

My boxset (from the early 90s) has them in publishing order, while most of the newer ones are in chronological order. I stand by reading The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe first, because it's actually interesting (and has such a sense of wonder!). The Magician's Nephew is an origins book, and I find it to be rather dry unless you actually care about Narnia already.

[identity profile] snale.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm boycotting, simply because of the entirely (http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=58254) gross (http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/living/13291474.htm) way (http://www.azcentral.com/ent/movies/articles/1008narniamarket1008.html) Disney's been marketing the thing.

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
That article is pretty sickening... just the attitude. "No one can enjoy the movie without understanding the Christian subtext!"

I did a pretty good job of reading the book and being oblivious to the Christian subtext, until it was pointed out to me.

[identity profile] snale.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the thing -- I think the books were really enjoyable without thinking too much about the Christian symbolism. (And actually, it's debatable how "Christian" that symbolism really is (http://www.newyorker.com/printables/critics/051121crat_atlarge).) I'm willing to bet the movie probably doesn't hit you over the head with it, either.

Unfortunately, Disney has chosen to play the religion card (while pretending they're not (http://washingtontimes.com/national/20051130-111658-3104r.htm), in other markets (http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4443248.stm)). So they're not only pushing it as a great Christian movie, they're lying about promoting it as a Christian movie at all.

And that just leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.

[identity profile] maladaptive.livejournal.com 2005-12-01 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I once mentioned to a friend that Narnia just reeked of Christian symbolism.

"That's bullshit! The author was an atheist."

Later the friend and I parted ways forever, and I was wondering why an atheist would write Narnia. Then I found out that he was a devout Catholic.

Most of my other friends say that you can look past the symbolism and enjoy the story. I honestly haven't tried. Either way, I want to see the movie, because I liked the books as a kid.