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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2026-02-04 10:18 pm

So, if you're even tangentially interested in blogs or people who spend a lot of time

correcting things people think they know about history, you'll soon learn that a perennial topic is "Yes, people drank water in Medieval Europe", followed closely by "They took baths too!" And yeah, they drank a lot of ale and wine... but people today drink a lot of alcohol too, and for much the same reason - we like it! Or if we don't like alcohol we like soda, or coffee, or tea.

People in the middle ages did understand that some water was safe to drink and some wasn't, and they went through considerable lengths to bring clean, potable water to their towns. Not that most of them lived in towns, but in this case, living further from town is a bonus. Less people = less poop.

(Also, while there are other waterborne illnesses, cholera in particular didn't leave India until the 1800s, well into the modern period. I'm not sure it even existed prior to 1817. Please stop telling me earnestly about Snow and cholera in London. Totally different time period, totally different situation, totally irrelevant.)

Anyway, this just popped up on my feed yet again today, and it suddenly sparked a question in my head:

If people supposedly didn't drink water because they didn't want to get sick, what did their animals drink? Surely nobody thinks that medieval peasants were giving their cows and pigs ale? Or do they think that non-human animals are so hardy that they aren't at risk of waterborne illness? Or maybe that people just didn't care if their animals died, like every sheep isn't wealth, or at least a source of food and wool?

(I'm willing to bet that nobody has an answer to this question, but that if I ever ask them, should it come up in the wild, they'll be annoyed at me!)
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2026-02-02 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
That's a good question. The couple of times I can think of it being addressed "Or do they think that non-human animals are so hardy that they aren't at risk of waterborne illness?" was pretty much the answer. People forget we're animals and oher animals aren't necessarily hardier than we are.
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[personal profile] armiphlage 2026-02-02 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Humans do have some weaker immune systems than some other mammals, such as bats. Not sure about sheep and other domesticated animals.
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[personal profile] sovay 2026-02-02 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
Also, while there are other waterborne illnesses, cholera in particular didn't leave India until the 1800s, well into the modern period. I'm not sure it even existed prior to 1817.

Cholera as a described and identifiable disease existed at least as far back as classical antiquity, but it didn't breach containment into pandemics until the early nineteenth century (wheee). It has no animal hosts but humans, but there are absolutely waterborne illnesses that affect non-human animals. Giardia is the first one that comes to mind.
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[personal profile] watervole 2026-02-02 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
Another reason for the popularity of ale was that it was a good source of calories.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2026-02-02 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
Hah. The animal thing never occurred to me.