I feel insulted.

[conuly]

I found this link when signing into Hotmail.

Do you consider yourself a height snob? You may be and not even realize it. When sizing up a potential date, what do you look for? A nice body, killer eyes and a big smile are usually at the top of the list. _{Actually, I'm looking for manners, intelligence, and the willingness to blow bubbles/splash in rain puddles.} But hey, quit looking way up there. Take a gander down at that 5'7" hottie. You've never looked there before. _{I haven't?} See? You can be vertically discriminating. _{I see that you're lying about me. And calling me more shallow than you, which is funny}

So what makes someone tall versus short? Maybe it's how tall they are compared to their significant other. Or maybe it's based on statistics. Currently, the average height for men is 5'9". So does that make everyone under that below average? _{Why, yes, yes it does! Amazing how that works!}

It's fine to want a guy that matches up well with you. _{Oh god, this can't be going anyplace good...} In fact, when it comes to height requirements, we girls usually have one cardinal rule: When we wear heels, we shouldn't be taller than our man. _{*scream* I don't wear heels. Heck, given half a chance, I don't wear shoes! And if I did wear heels, I promise you, I wouldn't worry about how tall this man is. And little note? Men who go out with girls are called pedophiles or staturatory rape offenders.}

But why is that? What's the fascination with taller guys? _{I HAVE NO FRIGGIN' CLUE! STOP OBSESSING OVER IT AND SAY SOMETHING USEFUL!} Sheila, 26, loves the beanpoles: "When a guy is a foot taller than me, I feel safer, like he can take care of me." _{Um, yeah. Because, y'know, only really weak guys, without weapons, will ever attack you}

Alisha, 29, echoes this point, "A tall man is a symbol of strength and that just makes me feel protected." _{You'd feel more protected if you took a self-defense class and bought a can of pepper spray}

Hello? Have either of you taken a look at the under 5'9" crowd lately? If you want strength, that's the place to be. Many of these guys are buff and tend to be a lot more muscular than those scrawny streetlamps you've been dating. _{Unless they're dating tall muscular men. And don't you think they should learn to defend themselves? We're not in Afghanistan. Women walk alone. At night.}

And a few more plugs for shorter guys: They're easier to hug and you can look them in the eye. _{Well, I suppose the whole eye-contact thing is tres important, more important than being with the (tall) guy you love. And hugs. Wow. Those hugs make up for all SORTS of relationship problems!}

Plus, last time I checked, it was 2004 and single women were making a lot of progress becoming more self-sufficient and less dependent on men. _{Is this the only thing you're going to say on the issue?} Don't make me quote the Destiny's Child song, "Independent Women" to prove my point. _{Apparently so. Destiny's Child? *shudders}

Debra, 32, claims her love for tall guys has nothing to do with needing a bodyguard: "I'm 5'10"," she explains, "If I dated someone who was 5'7", we'd look ridiculous together." _{So, you're admitting that you're shallow? Interesting approach.} That's interesting. Are you saying Tom and Nicole look ridiculous? Okay ... bad example. _Who?

Besides, in this century, diversity is in. You have the opportunity to date people of different ethnic backgrounds, different religions and even different tastes in reality television. Why not break down the height barrier? _{Because my religion and ethnic group forbid it. Also, it offends my aesthetic sensibilities, honed by watching too much Real World when I was a kid}

Think about it, tall girls (which, by the way, is everyone over 5'4"). If you limit yourself to only dating tall guys, you've essentially cut your dating pool in half. Short girls, on the other hand, could potentially date any guy over 5'4". This means they've got better odds of finding a date. Plus, they're likely to snag a cute short guy that you literally overlooked. _{No words. Just... no words}

In dating it's certainly smart to have standards. _Yes.... You don't want to date a mooch or an idiot or someone who doesn't agree with your choice for the American Idol. _{If he's intelligent, I'll even forgive somebody who disagrees with my choice for President. Um. After this election, that is. I have this thing where, y'know, I try not to watch shows like American Idol, or get too personally attatched to the winners} But when it comes to shapes and sizes, don't be a height snob. And don't exclude the shorties. Gone are the days of women needing big burly men to protect them. So forget how you two match up when you wear heels. It's time to set new rules when it comes to height. _{WHAT RULES??? THERE ARE NO FUCKING RULES!!!! STOP MAKING STUFF UP!} Hey, I say, as long as he can ride the big rollercoaster, he's all right by me. _{Is that a sex joke? Has she moved past the bad jokes into the bad sex jokes? Ew.}

Connie is NOT happy.

Comments

[rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com]

That article or spam or whatever is just so frigging stupid. Why should anyone have to defend his or her preference for whom they choose to date -- unless, maybe, the person is abusive, but that's not the poin of that silly little article.

I've only ever dated four people in my life, two of each gender. I chose people based on such things as whether they had senses of humour, whether they liked animals, whether they liked science fiction, whether they were actually nice to me.... It happens that the men I dated were taller than I am (current man included), and the women were shorter.

[conuly]

1. It's an article. That's the sort of stupid article MSN likes.
2. If your partner is abusive, you don't have to defend them, you have to get help. Which isn't a helpful thing to say, I know, but it's the truth.
3. Wait... you didn't decide based on their looks? HEATHEN! INFIDEL! FREAK!
4. Hm. Interesting coincidence.

[maladaptive.livejournal.com]

After knowing Koomer (6'3) I'd like to say this. I would love to date a man who's over 6 feet tall, because I'm 4'11 and dominant. It's fun to make them bend down to kiss you. :)

A lot of women won't date men if they wear heels and are taller. It drove one of my friends insane... but she's 5'10 and wearing heels... hmm. I don't see it as any different as saying "I like pretty boys" or "I like goth boys."

Other than it seems a standard rule. Not that I care.

[malantha.livejournal.com]

i just wanted to say i love your icon. machall is great.. and they have an adorable style :)

[maladaptive.livejournal.com]

Thanks! I'm a Micah fangirl. His gaming speaks right to my gamer girl soul. :D

You're the first person that's recognized it.

[spitefairy.livejournal.com]

Tom and Nicole are Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman I think, but they aren't a couple anymore, so the present tense confuses me a bit.

As to the rollercoaster, that is in reference to the height requirements on a lot of big rollercoasters. (IE You must be this tall to ride this coaster)

Anyway, the article is complete crap, after the "below average" comment I was just laughing.

[conuly]

As to the rollercoaster, that is in reference to the height requirements on a lot of big rollercoasters. (IE You must be this tall to ride this coaster)

So, what... she's really saying that it's bad to be prejudiced against short people, so long as they're the normal kind of short people and not the little-people kind of short people?

[spitefairy.livejournal.com]

I'm afraid so.

[eofs.livejournal.com]

Glad I'm not the only person who sees it like that. Don't be prejudiced against normals just because they're shorter than you. But only normals. *Rolls eyes*

[malantha.livejournal.com]

i was thinking that too. its only okay to judge people based on their height if they're weirdo midget freaks.

i'm about 5'3" and my boyfriend is 5'6". i have sandals that i wear regularly with about a 3 inch platform/heel so i'm just barely taller than him when i wear them. i think it's kinda cute to look down at him just because that's not how it usually is.

coincidentally, most of the people i've dated were significantly taller than me (by at least 7 inches). after being with my current boyfriend though i've realized it's more physically comfortable to be with someone closer to my height. i can hug him without stretching, i can rest my chin on his shoulder, we fit together better when cuddling. but it's not so important that i'd immediately write someone off because s/he is too short or too tall. it's just an added bonus. *shrug*

that ended up rather rambly... hehe

[hopefulnebula]

Eheh. I'm 5 feet even and am fully grown, so that's far from one of my concerns... watch me fall in love with somene who's 6'9"...

[eofs.livejournal.com]

Funnily enough, I'd actually be more likely to be against a guy who's taller than me, since I have lifelong issues about tall men (where tall is anyone taller than my father.) That said, I'm mostly over them now, apart from a few latent mrrs. Kinda have to be when you get male friends who are pushing or exceeding 6 foot ;0) But at the end of the day, I wouldn't be so stupid as to not date a guy just because he's taller (or shorter) than me. I already have enough of a job, requiring a guy who's got my surname (or at least initial,) will take me on holiday in the Rhine Valley and doesn't mind me marrying in trousers. If I added a height requirement I think I'd be getting too specific ;0)

[conuly]

Oh no, you don't want to ask for too much now!

[eofs.livejournal.com]

I'm glad someone agrees with me :0) Sure I'll be dating in no time *nods*

[stejcruetekie.livejournal.com]

Oh I think you're reading too much into this article. Of course it's stupid - most dating articles are. But it 100% reflects general society (which says a lot about general American society).

And frankly, the fact is that *everyone*.. yes, even you, has at least some physical bias. I flat out refuse to believe anyone who says they *only* look at intelligence or manners or whatever. Everyone has biases. And frankly, using intelligence as a yardstick is just as shallow as using looks.

It's all about the *whole package*. And it's ok to weigh certain aspects more than others. But eliminating (or selecting) someone just because of one aspect - be it looks, intelligence, manners, or the pet ferret, is shallow and judgemental.

[conuly]

I flat out refuse to believe anyone who says they *only* look at intelligence or manners or whatever.

Believe it or not. Doesnt' matter to me. I'll tell you something else... the odds of me being attracted to anybody, on any basis, are extremely insignificant, so quibbling over what my physical bias is happens to be silly. If I have one, I don't know about it because I'm so very rarely attracted to ANYbody.

[deathchibi.livejournal.com]

So, being 4'11" safely ensures I'll never date. Lovely. :P But really, what I want in a male... I think I'd like someone with a sense of humor, who could get along with me. Being smart's a nice bonus.

But hey, if you really think about it, we're pretty shallow as a species. *grin*

[dandelion.livejournal.com]

"Are you saying Tom and Nicole look ridiculous?"
Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman. When they broke up, someone asked her how she felt about it, and she said "I can wear heels now." She's about an inch taller than him.

"Besides, in this century, diversity is in. You have the opportunity to date people of different ethnic backgrounds, different religions and even different tastes in reality television. Why not break down the height barrier?"
Dude, yah. Like, let's like date (minority) and like, no-one else cause it's like IN this century. And if I'm, like, still alive next century, I have to, like, ditch him 'cause dude, you know next century there'll be, like, another group that's in.

"Short girls, on the other hand, could potentially date any guy over 5'4"."
I could potentially date any guy I want, even if he was six inches tall and lived in a shoe. Or ten foot tall. Why would I force it so that every guy I date would have to be at least 4" taller than I am? Wouldn't that just serve to "cut your dating pool"?

[eofs.livejournal.com]

She's about an inch taller than him.

Are you sure? I was under the impression she was quite tall (5'9 maybe) and he quite short. Or maybe he's just short in "look at me, I'm a macho man, look at my huge penis, I must be super tall" circles...

[dandelion.livejournal.com]

Yeah, only an inch or two in it. Nothing much at all- he's just short by Hollywood standards, and she's tall.

[nighteshade.livejournal.com]

All I have to say on the issue of height is that I once went to a dance with a guy who was a good 6 inches shorter than me. (I'm 5'11.) I was also wearing heels. Attempting to dance with him was excruciatingly awkward. He kept trying to lead and we kept stepping on each other and I didn't know where to put my arms... plus his face was right around my chest... which I suppose was convenient for HIM... So, just for the sake of practicality, I would prefer my dates to dances, at least, to be close to me in height.

[ladytalon.livejournal.com]

Well, I met my fiance over the internet, so I had no idea what he looked like until I was already in over my head. But he's very much taller than me, 8 or 9 inches, so I must be secretly shallow. Darn, and I thought I was doing so well.. That "article" (I hesitate to give it such a nice name) really seems to be down on anyone dating tall men. Don't tall men deserve relationships, too?

I'll admit I do like that he's tall. I think it looks nice. My head fits nicely on his shoulder when we sit together. But I don't know anyone who truly judges on height. Okay.. I could never envision myself dating a midget, so I guess I am a bit prejudiced that way.. Oh, well, it probably won't come up. ;)

[rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com]

That article or spam or whatever is just so frigging stupid. Why should anyone have to defend his or her preference for whom they choose to date -- unless, maybe, the person is abusive, but that's not the poin of that silly little article.

I've only ever dated four people in my life, two of each gender. I chose people based on such things as whether they had senses of humour, whether they liked animals, whether they liked science fiction, whether they were actually nice to me.... It happens that the men I dated were taller than I am (current man included), and the women were shorter.

[conuly]

1. It's an article. That's the sort of stupid article MSN likes.
2. If your partner is abusive, you don't have to defend them, you have to get help. Which isn't a helpful thing to say, I know, but it's the truth.
3. Wait... you didn't decide based on their looks? HEATHEN! INFIDEL! FREAK!
4. Hm. Interesting coincidence.

[maladaptive.livejournal.com]

After knowing Koomer (6'3) I'd like to say this. I would love to date a man who's over 6 feet tall, because I'm 4'11 and dominant. It's fun to make them bend down to kiss you. :)

A lot of women won't date men if they wear heels and are taller. It drove one of my friends insane... but she's 5'10 and wearing heels... hmm. I don't see it as any different as saying "I like pretty boys" or "I like goth boys."

Other than it seems a standard rule. Not that I care.

[malantha.livejournal.com]

i just wanted to say i love your icon. machall is great.. and they have an adorable style :)

[maladaptive.livejournal.com]

Thanks! I'm a Micah fangirl. His gaming speaks right to my gamer girl soul. :D

You're the first person that's recognized it.

[spitefairy.livejournal.com]

Tom and Nicole are Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman I think, but they aren't a couple anymore, so the present tense confuses me a bit.

As to the rollercoaster, that is in reference to the height requirements on a lot of big rollercoasters. (IE You must be this tall to ride this coaster)

Anyway, the article is complete crap, after the "below average" comment I was just laughing.

[conuly]

As to the rollercoaster, that is in reference to the height requirements on a lot of big rollercoasters. (IE You must be this tall to ride this coaster)

So, what... she's really saying that it's bad to be prejudiced against short people, so long as they're the normal kind of short people and not the little-people kind of short people?

[spitefairy.livejournal.com]

I'm afraid so.

[eofs.livejournal.com]

Glad I'm not the only person who sees it like that. Don't be prejudiced against normals just because they're shorter than you. But only normals. *Rolls eyes*

[malantha.livejournal.com]

i was thinking that too. its only okay to judge people based on their height if they're weirdo midget freaks.

i'm about 5'3" and my boyfriend is 5'6". i have sandals that i wear regularly with about a 3 inch platform/heel so i'm just barely taller than him when i wear them. i think it's kinda cute to look down at him just because that's not how it usually is.

coincidentally, most of the people i've dated were significantly taller than me (by at least 7 inches). after being with my current boyfriend though i've realized it's more physically comfortable to be with someone closer to my height. i can hug him without stretching, i can rest my chin on his shoulder, we fit together better when cuddling. but it's not so important that i'd immediately write someone off because s/he is too short or too tall. it's just an added bonus. *shrug*

that ended up rather rambly... hehe

[hopefulnebula]

Eheh. I'm 5 feet even and am fully grown, so that's far from one of my concerns... watch me fall in love with somene who's 6'9"...

[eofs.livejournal.com]

Funnily enough, I'd actually be more likely to be against a guy who's taller than me, since I have lifelong issues about tall men (where tall is anyone taller than my father.) That said, I'm mostly over them now, apart from a few latent mrrs. Kinda have to be when you get male friends who are pushing or exceeding 6 foot ;0) But at the end of the day, I wouldn't be so stupid as to not date a guy just because he's taller (or shorter) than me. I already have enough of a job, requiring a guy who's got my surname (or at least initial,) will take me on holiday in the Rhine Valley and doesn't mind me marrying in trousers. If I added a height requirement I think I'd be getting too specific ;0)

[conuly]

Oh no, you don't want to ask for too much now!

[eofs.livejournal.com]

I'm glad someone agrees with me :0) Sure I'll be dating in no time *nods*

[stejcruetekie.livejournal.com]

Oh I think you're reading too much into this article. Of course it's stupid - most dating articles are. But it 100% reflects general society (which says a lot about general American society).

And frankly, the fact is that *everyone*.. yes, even you, has at least some physical bias. I flat out refuse to believe anyone who says they *only* look at intelligence or manners or whatever. Everyone has biases. And frankly, using intelligence as a yardstick is just as shallow as using looks.

It's all about the *whole package*. And it's ok to weigh certain aspects more than others. But eliminating (or selecting) someone just because of one aspect - be it looks, intelligence, manners, or the pet ferret, is shallow and judgemental.

[conuly]

I flat out refuse to believe anyone who says they *only* look at intelligence or manners or whatever.

Believe it or not. Doesnt' matter to me. I'll tell you something else... the odds of me being attracted to anybody, on any basis, are extremely insignificant, so quibbling over what my physical bias is happens to be silly. If I have one, I don't know about it because I'm so very rarely attracted to ANYbody.

[deathchibi.livejournal.com]

So, being 4'11" safely ensures I'll never date. Lovely. :P But really, what I want in a male... I think I'd like someone with a sense of humor, who could get along with me. Being smart's a nice bonus.

But hey, if you really think about it, we're pretty shallow as a species. *grin*

[dandelion.livejournal.com]

"Are you saying Tom and Nicole look ridiculous?"
Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman. When they broke up, someone asked her how she felt about it, and she said "I can wear heels now." She's about an inch taller than him.

"Besides, in this century, diversity is in. You have the opportunity to date people of different ethnic backgrounds, different religions and even different tastes in reality television. Why not break down the height barrier?"
Dude, yah. Like, let's like date (minority) and like, no-one else cause it's like IN this century. And if I'm, like, still alive next century, I have to, like, ditch him 'cause dude, you know next century there'll be, like, another group that's in.

"Short girls, on the other hand, could potentially date any guy over 5'4"."
I could potentially date any guy I want, even if he was six inches tall and lived in a shoe. Or ten foot tall. Why would I force it so that every guy I date would have to be at least 4" taller than I am? Wouldn't that just serve to "cut your dating pool"?

[eofs.livejournal.com]

She's about an inch taller than him.

Are you sure? I was under the impression she was quite tall (5'9 maybe) and he quite short. Or maybe he's just short in "look at me, I'm a macho man, look at my huge penis, I must be super tall" circles...

[dandelion.livejournal.com]

Yeah, only an inch or two in it. Nothing much at all- he's just short by Hollywood standards, and she's tall.

[nighteshade.livejournal.com]

All I have to say on the issue of height is that I once went to a dance with a guy who was a good 6 inches shorter than me. (I'm 5'11.) I was also wearing heels. Attempting to dance with him was excruciatingly awkward. He kept trying to lead and we kept stepping on each other and I didn't know where to put my arms... plus his face was right around my chest... which I suppose was convenient for HIM... So, just for the sake of practicality, I would prefer my dates to dances, at least, to be close to me in height.

[ladytalon.livejournal.com]

Well, I met my fiance over the internet, so I had no idea what he looked like until I was already in over my head. But he's very much taller than me, 8 or 9 inches, so I must be secretly shallow. Darn, and I thought I was doing so well.. That "article" (I hesitate to give it such a nice name) really seems to be down on anyone dating tall men. Don't tall men deserve relationships, too?

I'll admit I do like that he's tall. I think it looks nice. My head fits nicely on his shoulder when we sit together. But I don't know anyone who truly judges on height. Okay.. I could never envision myself dating a midget, so I guess I am a bit prejudiced that way.. Oh, well, it probably won't come up. ;)