Wow.

[conuly]

There's a hell of a lot of people reading my damn disclaimer lately.

Unfortunately for them, none of them are really my intended audience.

See, my intended audience is people who do things like say "UR HORRIBLE!!!!" and then, when I ask what I did, keep insisting that I know, and that I've made them cry, and that I should let it drop already, until I am crying.

My intended audience is not those who offended me first, because in that case, there's a good chance I wanted to offend them right back. I can do that, you know, I am allowed. It may not be the most mature route...

Well, screw it. I find it hard to dredge up much sympathy for somebody who reads my disclaimer, starts off saying "I know you might not have meant to offend", and then ends up yelling at me and telling me that tired old (and stupid!) rule about only saying nice things. While yelling at me, and thus breaking that rule. It's not an important rule to me, but if it's important to you, (which it clearly wasn't in this case, or she wouldn't've said the offensive things which first upset me), oughtn't you, y'know, attempt to follow it? Perhaps by not yelling "shut the fuck up" at me via the internet?

In other news, Ana is too smart. Much too smart.

Not smart enough, though, to actually stay out of our water fights, even though she is scared of them. She keeps wanting to grab a water gun, squirt her daddy (that's funny, she doesn't squirt me), and then runs in fear when she gets squirted back, or splashed.

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[strega42.livejournal.com]

:: hugs ::

Some people just need to learn to chill out.

Jeebus.

This is why I don't take the internet seriously. Too many people who insist on taking things personally when it wasn't about them in the first damn place.

[conuly]

Oh, no. The comment that prompted the comment(s) that prompted this post was about the poster. I think she's an idiot, more so now that she's spammed my journal.

It's a not very interesting story, but basically, she posted in the guise of asking about "unschooling" - but in a way that makes it clear her mind is already set, using a lot of prejudicial words about it.

Somebody gave a good, concise definition of the philosophy behind it, and the person goes "well sure they could learn to garden but can unschooling teach them about photosynthesis?" with the implication being no, it can't.

(The truth is that 1. if the kid wants to learn about photosynthesis, nothing is stopping them from learning about it on their own and 2. very few people who "learn" that in school remember it once the test is over, because they aren't interested in it.)

And all her posts and comments were uncapitalized, with massive punctuation errors, and some odd misusages of words (intelligent is not a synonym for educated). So I commented asking if she knew how photosynthesis works, and additionally, if she knew how to use the English language (because I'm sure not seeing any evidence of that).

Honestly, if she's the result of this newfangled "education" concept, I'm glad I didn't really have any of that until high school. I mean, I attended and all, but I only learned what I read on my own.

[leora.livejournal.com]

A lot of the things I know and really use I learned informally. For example, I recently had a craving for sweets. Not just a desire for sweets, but an actual craving where my body said GIVE ME SWEETS. This confused me, since it's not as if the body generally needs sugar. A craving for eggs or fruits or leafy greens makes sense, but why crave sweets? So, I looked up some info online, searched around, and found reasons why the body might crave sweets and how to react in a healthy way. I have a lot of knowledge acquired this way with similar motivations or just curiosity. Which means, I have a fair bit of practical knowledge I can actually use. Certainly more than I learned in my health classes.

I don't think I'd want to use unschooling myself, but I think people underestimate how much of what people learn and use is learned informally.

[conuly]

And hugs back. I alternate between taking the internet seriously, and taking nothing seriously, internet included. Right now I'm on a serious swing, so I'm far more upset than usual (I've got the hiccups). In a couple of days, I'll almost be laughing at the news again.

[maelorin]

hey, if somethign is someone else's problem, it's their problem. no point trying to feel sympathy - they're just yanking your chain for their own benefit.

there is not 'rule' that says you have to say nice thigns. hasn't been for decades. again, that's just an emotional power-play. these n00bs choose to read your journal, they have to deal with it. it's your journal - not their whinge and whine forum ... "oh woe is me, i'm so insecure and immature that i can't cope with something someone else has written".

it's particularly pathetic when they don't even know you ...


the anna thing is a very normal kid thing. my 5 yo does much the same. they love the rush from the fear. and it's pretty good fun squirting daddy! especially if you get chased afterwards (it could be the chase that she's after :)

[sporks5000.livejournal.com]

"I find it hard to dredge up much sympathy for somebody who reads my disclaimer, starts off saying "I know you might not have meant to offend", and then ends up yelling at me and telling me that tired old (and stupid!) rule about only saying nice things. While yelling at me, and thus breaking that rule."

Quoth the parent in the mall to her four year old boy:

Parent: Do (SMACK!) Not (SMACK!) Hit (Smack!) Your (SMACK!) Brother!!!! (SMACK!)

Talk about mixed messages!

[mikmelhan6.livejournal.com]

Like I said before if you had read the rest of my comments, you would see that I recieved more information on the subject. After I recieved said information I changed my tune quite a bit. If I was going to call them stupid, or their ideas or children stupid I would have said just that. Instead what I said was: "It doesn't SOUND good to me." and insulting my typing and puctuation is just a low blow to make yourself feel better. Did you ever think that I know how to type and punctuate correctly mabye I just don't care to put that much effort into it. and in one of your nasty posts back to me you spelled punctuate as puntuate so I guess that makes you just as stupid as I am according to your school of thought.

[mikmelhan6.livejournal.com]

oh yea and take me the fuck off of your mocking section titled "I think you should read this already. I don't my journal to be associated with yours.

[mikmelhan6.livejournal.com]

Oh yea, only miserable and lonely people feel the need to give themselves such a self inflated title. You must really have no life.

[conuly]

No, you said it was absurd, and that it would make their children less intelligent.

One typo, my friend, is nowhere near as weighty as your profound disrespect for the conventions of written language.

As for my "mocking section" - no. If I cared what you thought, I would have never made that post in the first place. One would really have thought that was obvious.

And you get a free point! Another winner in Connie's "who doesn't have a sense of humor regarding my user info" contest! Congratulations! You idiot! *plunks a sticker on your head*

[mikmelhan6.livejournal.com]

I don't care what you say. I think you are stupid. I just wish your head wasn't so far up your ass to realize that my opinion changed after I recieved person accounts and information from someone who actually does unschooling.

[alice-bunnie.livejournal.com]

You know, this is considered abuse by LJ standards, I believe. Just drop it.

[xiggaroo.livejournal.com]

For what it's worth, if anything, I think you totally overreacted and were the first one to say anything rude. Her initial post wasn't "OMG UNSCHOOLING IS STUPID AND YOU ARE STUPID AND ARRRG", it was "hey, I know nothing about this - it sounds really weird, but I'm curious, can you fill me in?". Calling something absurd is hardly calling it stupid.

And anyway, I don't think it's totally necessary to correct a person's grammar. Of course, it's not bad to do so either. But saying "do you have a grasp of the English language" is just an unnecessary, rude personal attack.

Sorry that I don't agree with you on this, but I felt it important to say so.... Please don't get pissed with me.

[conuly]

Yes, it is calling it stupid - and then continuing saying that your kids won't be "intellectually comprable" is also insulting.

[strega42.livejournal.com]

:: hugs ::

Some people just need to learn to chill out.

Jeebus.

This is why I don't take the internet seriously. Too many people who insist on taking things personally when it wasn't about them in the first damn place.

[conuly]

Oh, no. The comment that prompted the comment(s) that prompted this post was about the poster. I think she's an idiot, more so now that she's spammed my journal.

It's a not very interesting story, but basically, she posted in the guise of asking about "unschooling" - but in a way that makes it clear her mind is already set, using a lot of prejudicial words about it.

Somebody gave a good, concise definition of the philosophy behind it, and the person goes "well sure they could learn to garden but can unschooling teach them about photosynthesis?" with the implication being no, it can't.

(The truth is that 1. if the kid wants to learn about photosynthesis, nothing is stopping them from learning about it on their own and 2. very few people who "learn" that in school remember it once the test is over, because they aren't interested in it.)

And all her posts and comments were uncapitalized, with massive punctuation errors, and some odd misusages of words (intelligent is not a synonym for educated). So I commented asking if she knew how photosynthesis works, and additionally, if she knew how to use the English language (because I'm sure not seeing any evidence of that).

Honestly, if she's the result of this newfangled "education" concept, I'm glad I didn't really have any of that until high school. I mean, I attended and all, but I only learned what I read on my own.

[conuly]

And hugs back. I alternate between taking the internet seriously, and taking nothing seriously, internet included. Right now I'm on a serious swing, so I'm far more upset than usual (I've got the hiccups). In a couple of days, I'll almost be laughing at the news again.

[maelorin]

hey, if somethign is someone else's problem, it's their problem. no point trying to feel sympathy - they're just yanking your chain for their own benefit.

there is not 'rule' that says you have to say nice thigns. hasn't been for decades. again, that's just an emotional power-play. these n00bs choose to read your journal, they have to deal with it. it's your journal - not their whinge and whine forum ... "oh woe is me, i'm so insecure and immature that i can't cope with something someone else has written".

it's particularly pathetic when they don't even know you ...


the anna thing is a very normal kid thing. my 5 yo does much the same. they love the rush from the fear. and it's pretty good fun squirting daddy! especially if you get chased afterwards (it could be the chase that she's after :)

[sporks5000.livejournal.com]

"I find it hard to dredge up much sympathy for somebody who reads my disclaimer, starts off saying "I know you might not have meant to offend", and then ends up yelling at me and telling me that tired old (and stupid!) rule about only saying nice things. While yelling at me, and thus breaking that rule."

Quoth the parent in the mall to her four year old boy:

Parent: Do (SMACK!) Not (SMACK!) Hit (Smack!) Your (SMACK!) Brother!!!! (SMACK!)

Talk about mixed messages!

[mikmelhan6.livejournal.com]

Like I said before if you had read the rest of my comments, you would see that I recieved more information on the subject. After I recieved said information I changed my tune quite a bit. If I was going to call them stupid, or their ideas or children stupid I would have said just that. Instead what I said was: "It doesn't SOUND good to me." and insulting my typing and puctuation is just a low blow to make yourself feel better. Did you ever think that I know how to type and punctuate correctly mabye I just don't care to put that much effort into it. and in one of your nasty posts back to me you spelled punctuate as puntuate so I guess that makes you just as stupid as I am according to your school of thought.

[mikmelhan6.livejournal.com]

oh yea and take me the fuck off of your mocking section titled "I think you should read this already. I don't my journal to be associated with yours.

[conuly]

No, you said it was absurd, and that it would make their children less intelligent.

One typo, my friend, is nowhere near as weighty as your profound disrespect for the conventions of written language.

As for my "mocking section" - no. If I cared what you thought, I would have never made that post in the first place. One would really have thought that was obvious.

And you get a free point! Another winner in Connie's "who doesn't have a sense of humor regarding my user info" contest! Congratulations! You idiot! *plunks a sticker on your head*

[alice-bunnie.livejournal.com]

You know, this is considered abuse by LJ standards, I believe. Just drop it.

[xiggaroo.livejournal.com]

For what it's worth, if anything, I think you totally overreacted and were the first one to say anything rude. Her initial post wasn't "OMG UNSCHOOLING IS STUPID AND YOU ARE STUPID AND ARRRG", it was "hey, I know nothing about this - it sounds really weird, but I'm curious, can you fill me in?". Calling something absurd is hardly calling it stupid.

And anyway, I don't think it's totally necessary to correct a person's grammar. Of course, it's not bad to do so either. But saying "do you have a grasp of the English language" is just an unnecessary, rude personal attack.

Sorry that I don't agree with you on this, but I felt it important to say so.... Please don't get pissed with me.

[conuly]

Yes, it is calling it stupid - and then continuing saying that your kids won't be "intellectually comprable" is also insulting.