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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2004-12-18 03:24 am

And that depressing news story again...

Honestly, I don't know any of these people.

Is it too late to move out of the country? Perhaps to Antarctica - there's scientists there, and penguins, they'll take me in, right?

[identity profile] marveen.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Forty-eight percent opined that no change in civil liberties was necessary.

Keep repeating that.

[identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
I tried . . . I kept crying. It's hard to talk when you're crying.

[identity profile] dkmnow.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Antarctica, yes.

But not without a 55 gallon drum of SPF 1000 sunscreen to climb into.

[identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
amen.

Maybe we could make a lead-lined igloo.

...We'd be at least safe from Superman.

Weird...

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
I hate Islam, and think that Muslims are scum of the earth... and I think that half of all the people poled believing that Muslims should have their civil liberties restricted is pretty damned extreme.

Re: Weird...

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
Mostly, it's Mohammd. He was not a plain human. He was a criminal killed thousands of innocent people. He did kill my great-great... mother. He killed many other noble people who were staying at his way to power. He was a criminal.

Of course he was not born a criminal. Before it he was a child and the fact that his mother refused him contributed to his future hatred to people. And his illness, his poverty, his humiliation when he was working a camel driver (it was humiliating business in that time), and his ambitions also contributed to his criminal future. Nobody know all roots of evil.

We may have compassion to him when he was a child. But I have no compassion to him when he was evil, a brutal killer, lying "prophet", butcher and pedophile. He left book which teaches hatred, killing and oppression. Not to mention amazing levels of mysogyny.

Re: Weird...

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Islam without Muhammad is somewhere in between Christianity without Jesus and Naziism without Hitler. This murderous pedophile is "the Prophet," to whom all Muslims pay hommage.

Believing is an action. It's a verb, after all.

Re: Weird...

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
So, you're saying that Alyiah was only nine years old in spirit or metaphorically when Muhammad fucked her? I'm a little confused here.

Re: Weird...

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think that ||insert random historical criminal... Giles De Rais, Muhammad, whomever|| was a great and holy prophet and a person of the utmost moral character."

Ok, Connie... whatever.

[identity profile] fjorab-teke.livejournal.com 2004-12-19 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Geez...that's disturbing. X-(

What's also disturbing is that both of the Muslim men I've known as more than passing acquaintances are real jerks, and one is particularly scary. It doesn't help my determination NOT to view Muslims or people of middle-eastern heritage as anything but terrorists. but I STILL disagree with the profiling. People can be nice, and people can be real jerks. Some are peaceful while some are driven to terrorize others.

EVERYONE is capable of being a terrorist. Being Muslim or from the middle east doesn't change those odds very much! At least I don't think they do. Right now, there are SO many people in the USA who are very militant about their hatred of anyone who they perceive as foreign. THAT is the budding of internal terrorism, and I doubt they would want to admit to it.

[identity profile] marveen.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Forty-eight percent opined that no change in civil liberties was necessary.

Keep repeating that.

[identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
I tried . . . I kept crying. It's hard to talk when you're crying.

[identity profile] dkmnow.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Antarctica, yes.

But not without a 55 gallon drum of SPF 1000 sunscreen to climb into.

[identity profile] lakidaa.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
amen.

Maybe we could make a lead-lined igloo.

...We'd be at least safe from Superman.

Weird...

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
I hate Islam, and think that Muslims are scum of the earth... and I think that half of all the people poled believing that Muslims should have their civil liberties restricted is pretty damned extreme.

Re: Weird...

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
Mostly, it's Mohammd. He was not a plain human. He was a criminal killed thousands of innocent people. He did kill my great-great... mother. He killed many other noble people who were staying at his way to power. He was a criminal.

Of course he was not born a criminal. Before it he was a child and the fact that his mother refused him contributed to his future hatred to people. And his illness, his poverty, his humiliation when he was working a camel driver (it was humiliating business in that time), and his ambitions also contributed to his criminal future. Nobody know all roots of evil.

We may have compassion to him when he was a child. But I have no compassion to him when he was evil, a brutal killer, lying "prophet", butcher and pedophile. He left book which teaches hatred, killing and oppression. Not to mention amazing levels of mysogyny.

Re: Weird...

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Islam without Muhammad is somewhere in between Christianity without Jesus and Naziism without Hitler. This murderous pedophile is "the Prophet," to whom all Muslims pay hommage.

Believing is an action. It's a verb, after all.

Re: Weird...

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
So, you're saying that Alyiah was only nine years old in spirit or metaphorically when Muhammad fucked her? I'm a little confused here.

Re: Weird...

[identity profile] staircase-wit.livejournal.com 2004-12-18 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think that ||insert random historical criminal... Giles De Rais, Muhammad, whomever|| was a great and holy prophet and a person of the utmost moral character."

Ok, Connie... whatever.

[identity profile] fjorab-teke.livejournal.com 2004-12-19 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Geez...that's disturbing. X-(

What's also disturbing is that both of the Muslim men I've known as more than passing acquaintances are real jerks, and one is particularly scary. It doesn't help my determination NOT to view Muslims or people of middle-eastern heritage as anything but terrorists. but I STILL disagree with the profiling. People can be nice, and people can be real jerks. Some are peaceful while some are driven to terrorize others.

EVERYONE is capable of being a terrorist. Being Muslim or from the middle east doesn't change those odds very much! At least I don't think they do. Right now, there are SO many people in the USA who are very militant about their hatred of anyone who they perceive as foreign. THAT is the budding of internal terrorism, and I doubt they would want to admit to it.