Okay, you know that UCC ad that was "too controversial" to be aired?

[conuly]

I just saw it on AMC.

That was controversial?

What the fuck? Did I see an edited version of the ad or something?

*sighs*

Another thing I just don't get.

Watching a documentary on Miracle. God I love that movie....

Comments

[neurotica0.livejournal.com]

What's UCC?

I think you may be talking about the ad for the church which someone I know goes to. If you are, I can explain what's "controversial" about it.

[conuly]

UUC? I don't know, it's United Church of Christ or something.

And I know what's supposed to be controversial about it, I'm asking what those idiots were smoking that they thought it actually *was* controversial.

[neurotica0.livejournal.com]

Yep, we were talking about the same thing then.

I just thought you might have missed the part where they showed homosexual couples, because I missed it the first time I saw it.

Man, if it wasn't for the whole not-believing-in-god thing, that'd be the church for me. Or a more light presbyterian church.

[conuly]

That's what I'm not getting. Couldn't the sillies just say to themselves "oh, look, close platonic friends"? Or was there sexing going on?

[neurotica0.livejournal.com]

Hand-holding and shoulder-hugging.

But, the people opposed to the ad think that homosexuals should be condemned and not allowed into the church. They are offended by the notion that accepting homosexuals (and for some of the more extremist opponents--ethnic minorities) into the church is jesus-like.

I guess they missed that whole part where jesus loved everyone.

[kynn.livejournal.com]

UCC = United Church of Christ. ucc.org (http://www.ucc.org/)

We used to be Puritans. We got better.

Now we TEH FAG CHURCH.

--K

[jedirita.livejournal.com]

Cool! I'm UCC, too!

Isn't it awesome that thanks to all the brouhaha, people finally recognize our name? And not saying, "Oh, you're the church that doesn't have piano music in worship."

[conuly]

So, you're... a capella?

[jedirita.livejournal.com]

No, that's the "Church of Christ," with whom we are always confused.

[kynn.livejournal.com]

Yay! Come join ucc_peeps :)

--Kynn, peep peep

[jedirita.livejournal.com]

I've seen that community before, but back then there was almost no one in it. Awesome! I'll join it with my "real life" name instead of my fandom name.

Thanks for the tip!

[dkmnow.livejournal.com]

I just saw the ad on CBS and had the same reaction. I suspect that it is a "revised" version, but I'm not sure. I'm sure there are websites that carry the original ad, but I don't know which. If I find one - and especially if the original ad is different - I'll try to remember to post a link.

[neurotica0.livejournal.com]

AFAIK, the ad has not been altered.

It merely shows the acceptance of ethnic minorities and homosexuals into the church. The only hint that the same sex couples are romantically involved is shoulder hugging and hand holding.

It's controversial because quite a few people feel that homosexuals should be condemned from the church, rather than accepted.

According to the director of the united campus ministries here (she's a member of the church), the controversy has turned out to be a good thing. The church couldn't afford to advertise, but when stations started refusing to air it, it got national news attention and therefore, free air time.

[kynn.livejournal.com]

The ad is at Still Speaking (http://www.stillspeaking.org/), the church's web site for this campaign.

It has not, to my knowledge, been altered at all. Either it's running as originally provided, or it's not running at all.

--Kynn

[dkmnow.livejournal.com]

Thanks. :-)

[jedirita.livejournal.com]

I'm a member of that denomination! Hooray, you saw our ad!

Alas, I don't get cable so it's unlikely I'll get to see it. (Though I've seen it many times this past year. And it was only just recently that I realized the first couple being rejected by the bouncers was a gay couple holding hands.)

The ad has not been altered. What you saw is exactly what was deemed too controversial.

[rachelkachel]

It's controversial because it implies that other churches exclude people, or so it was explained to me. It's not so much that one of the couples in it *might* be homosexual. Even if they are, they're generally still welcome. Anyone is, unless the church is really insanely fundamentalist.

I think it also implied that other churches discriminate based on race, though I personally haven't seen the ad.

huh

[scottrossi.livejournal.com]

i didnt think it was controversial at all. there wasnt even a single offensive thing, and the plug with the two women is so quick and so vague, the first few times i saw it, i thought it was just a man and a woman, lol.

[neurotica0.livejournal.com]

What's UCC?

I think you may be talking about the ad for the church which someone I know goes to. If you are, I can explain what's "controversial" about it.

[conuly]

UUC? I don't know, it's United Church of Christ or something.

And I know what's supposed to be controversial about it, I'm asking what those idiots were smoking that they thought it actually *was* controversial.

[neurotica0.livejournal.com]

Yep, we were talking about the same thing then.

I just thought you might have missed the part where they showed homosexual couples, because I missed it the first time I saw it.

Man, if it wasn't for the whole not-believing-in-god thing, that'd be the church for me. Or a more light presbyterian church.

[conuly]

That's what I'm not getting. Couldn't the sillies just say to themselves "oh, look, close platonic friends"? Or was there sexing going on?

[neurotica0.livejournal.com]

Hand-holding and shoulder-hugging.

But, the people opposed to the ad think that homosexuals should be condemned and not allowed into the church. They are offended by the notion that accepting homosexuals (and for some of the more extremist opponents--ethnic minorities) into the church is jesus-like.

I guess they missed that whole part where jesus loved everyone.

[kynn.livejournal.com]

UCC = United Church of Christ. ucc.org (http://www.ucc.org/)

We used to be Puritans. We got better.

Now we TEH FAG CHURCH.

--K

[jedirita.livejournal.com]

Cool! I'm UCC, too!

Isn't it awesome that thanks to all the brouhaha, people finally recognize our name? And not saying, "Oh, you're the church that doesn't have piano music in worship."

[conuly]

So, you're... a capella?

[jedirita.livejournal.com]

No, that's the "Church of Christ," with whom we are always confused.

[kynn.livejournal.com]

Yay! Come join ucc_peeps :)

--Kynn, peep peep

[jedirita.livejournal.com]

I've seen that community before, but back then there was almost no one in it. Awesome! I'll join it with my "real life" name instead of my fandom name.

Thanks for the tip!

[dkmnow.livejournal.com]

I just saw the ad on CBS and had the same reaction. I suspect that it is a "revised" version, but I'm not sure. I'm sure there are websites that carry the original ad, but I don't know which. If I find one - and especially if the original ad is different - I'll try to remember to post a link.

[neurotica0.livejournal.com]

AFAIK, the ad has not been altered.

It merely shows the acceptance of ethnic minorities and homosexuals into the church. The only hint that the same sex couples are romantically involved is shoulder hugging and hand holding.

It's controversial because quite a few people feel that homosexuals should be condemned from the church, rather than accepted.

According to the director of the united campus ministries here (she's a member of the church), the controversy has turned out to be a good thing. The church couldn't afford to advertise, but when stations started refusing to air it, it got national news attention and therefore, free air time.

[kynn.livejournal.com]

The ad is at Still Speaking (http://www.stillspeaking.org/), the church's web site for this campaign.

It has not, to my knowledge, been altered at all. Either it's running as originally provided, or it's not running at all.

--Kynn

[dkmnow.livejournal.com]

Thanks. :-)

[jedirita.livejournal.com]

I'm a member of that denomination! Hooray, you saw our ad!

Alas, I don't get cable so it's unlikely I'll get to see it. (Though I've seen it many times this past year. And it was only just recently that I realized the first couple being rejected by the bouncers was a gay couple holding hands.)

The ad has not been altered. What you saw is exactly what was deemed too controversial.

[rachelkachel]

It's controversial because it implies that other churches exclude people, or so it was explained to me. It's not so much that one of the couples in it *might* be homosexual. Even if they are, they're generally still welcome. Anyone is, unless the church is really insanely fundamentalist.

I think it also implied that other churches discriminate based on race, though I personally haven't seen the ad.

huh

[scottrossi.livejournal.com]

i didnt think it was controversial at all. there wasnt even a single offensive thing, and the plug with the two women is so quick and so vague, the first few times i saw it, i thought it was just a man and a woman, lol.