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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2004-10-14 08:22 pm

On the subject of breastfeeding...

Why is it called "breastmilk"? We don't say that cats have "teatmilk" and cows have "uddermilk", do we? Why not call it human milk, since that's what it is, or just milk?

Edit: I don't like "baby formula" either. Sounds like you've got some baby in a can, and that's just not right. Ick.

[identity profile] ser-kai.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I called it Mummy-milk when I was feeding Quinn. :-)

[identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Because the word 'milk' has been almost exclusively reserved for cow's milk, and that's what most people expect it to mean. Therefore, goat's milk or any other kind of milk has to come with a qualifier.

And since you ask, cow's milk is the standard and has been since *forever* (well, nearly so) because they're the most efficient and productive suppliers. There really isn't another domesticated animal that is as easy to get such quantities of milk from.

[identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com 2004-10-15 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
I know you didn't ask, but I was sure you'd appreciate it in the long run, so I anticipated. I was being all motherly that way.

And since you asked--my theory is that men just want whatever excuse possible to say 'breast.' :-)

[identity profile] anotheralice.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It might be referred to as "breastmilk" to differentiate between "formula," or just regular cow's "milk" for older children. But there doesn't seem to be any reason why we couldn't refer to it as "human milk." Maybe we just have an obsession in our culture with the word "breast."

[identity profile] carakarena.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Because breast has one syllable and human has two.

[identity profile] carakarena.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I just think you're just overanalyzing it. But, since you have pulled me into your diabolical web of overanalysis, I will say that a "cow" is technically a female bovine, while a "bull" is male bovine. So perhaps, a more proper analogous term would be "woman's milk." However, since "woman's milk" could refer to cow's milk (or goat's milk) currently in the possession of a woman or a class of women, one says "breast milk" and it becomes immediately clear what kind of milk is being referred to

[identity profile] spitefairy.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I am a staunch supporter of canned baby.

[identity profile] spitefairy.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Great, there's not enough instababy in the stores these days.

I've cross the line into creepy, haven't I?

[identity profile] rpeate.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not called "breast milk" by me. I know some reptiles produce milk without breasts, but I see no need to highlight this distinction. It's speciesism against reptiles, if you think about it. :)

[identity profile] rpeate.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't make me whip out my phyla and order! :) I suppose . . .

[identity profile] rpeate.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just saying I've never used that redundancy. I have said breasts produce milk, but never "breast milk" per se. I've heard women (including my mother) say it and wondered why. I've thought, "Do they think I don't know its origin?"

[identity profile] tinchen.livejournal.com 2004-10-15 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
In German it's called "Muttermilch" meaning Mothermilk (or maybe Mother's milk, that sound better i guess). Somehow a bit more fitting. (since human milk would maybe imply that all humans have it. I think cow milk sounds better than bovine milk, too.

[identity profile] ser-kai.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I called it Mummy-milk when I was feeding Quinn. :-)

[identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Because the word 'milk' has been almost exclusively reserved for cow's milk, and that's what most people expect it to mean. Therefore, goat's milk or any other kind of milk has to come with a qualifier.

And since you ask, cow's milk is the standard and has been since *forever* (well, nearly so) because they're the most efficient and productive suppliers. There really isn't another domesticated animal that is as easy to get such quantities of milk from.

[identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com 2004-10-15 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
I know you didn't ask, but I was sure you'd appreciate it in the long run, so I anticipated. I was being all motherly that way.

And since you asked--my theory is that men just want whatever excuse possible to say 'breast.' :-)

[identity profile] anotheralice.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It might be referred to as "breastmilk" to differentiate between "formula," or just regular cow's "milk" for older children. But there doesn't seem to be any reason why we couldn't refer to it as "human milk." Maybe we just have an obsession in our culture with the word "breast."

[identity profile] carakarena.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Because breast has one syllable and human has two.

[identity profile] carakarena.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I just think you're just overanalyzing it. But, since you have pulled me into your diabolical web of overanalysis, I will say that a "cow" is technically a female bovine, while a "bull" is male bovine. So perhaps, a more proper analogous term would be "woman's milk." However, since "woman's milk" could refer to cow's milk (or goat's milk) currently in the possession of a woman or a class of women, one says "breast milk" and it becomes immediately clear what kind of milk is being referred to

[identity profile] spitefairy.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I am a staunch supporter of canned baby.

[identity profile] spitefairy.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Great, there's not enough instababy in the stores these days.

I've cross the line into creepy, haven't I?

[identity profile] rpeate.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not called "breast milk" by me. I know some reptiles produce milk without breasts, but I see no need to highlight this distinction. It's speciesism against reptiles, if you think about it. :)

[identity profile] rpeate.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't make me whip out my phyla and order! :) I suppose . . .

[identity profile] rpeate.livejournal.com 2004-10-14 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just saying I've never used that redundancy. I have said breasts produce milk, but never "breast milk" per se. I've heard women (including my mother) say it and wondered why. I've thought, "Do they think I don't know its origin?"

[identity profile] tinchen.livejournal.com 2004-10-15 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
In German it's called "Muttermilch" meaning Mothermilk (or maybe Mother's milk, that sound better i guess). Somehow a bit more fitting. (since human milk would maybe imply that all humans have it. I think cow milk sounds better than bovine milk, too.