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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2020-02-07 12:18 am

More advice for wildlife, this time squirrels, care and feeding of.

If you're just tossing a few peanuts at squirrels now and again, by all means, carry on.

If, however, you are one of those people who likes to dump entire bags of peanuts on the ground in the park... well, first of all, stop doing that, but also, stop giving them peanuts (or sunflower seeds).

Peanuts and sunflower seeds do not have enough calcium or methionine for squirrels, and if those foods compose too much of their diet they will suffer from severe nutritional deficiencies.

I know that peanuts and sunflower seeds are cheaper than treenuts, but you shouldn't be dumping out so much food for the squirrels anyway, so spend the same amount and give them a little less of food that's better for them.

(Squirrels can actually eat quite a lot of food that's not nuts and acorns and seeds, like fruit, vegetables, insects, and even eggs, and they need to eat these other things for a nutritionally complete diet... but honestly, I'd rather tell people to stick to the most expensive option so they put out less of it. If you're not putting out so much food that huge populations of squirrels can gorge themselves sick and still leave more for the rats, then you'll find that even in an urban environment they can usually find their own supplies of all that other stuff.)

On a semi-related note, stop giving bread to ducks and other waterfowl. If you feel you must feed the ducks, give them a small amount of lettuce and vegetable trimmings (if you want to feed them scraps) or mealworms (if you don't mind making a stop by the pet store first). Ducks can also eat treenuts. And I suppose they can eat birdseed as well, but for the love of god, please do not dump 20 pounds of birdseed on the ground. Everybody needs to stop doing that.
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[personal profile] dine 2020-02-06 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
excellent advice! though cracked corn is actually better for ducks than birdseed, and easier to haul around, imo. my family would buy it at the feed store, but it's also available online, and possibly at bird or pet stores like Petco

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[personal profile] mindstalk 2020-02-06 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
PLZ LES PEENUTS

MOAR FRIED CHKEN
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[personal profile] gingicat 2020-02-06 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
Around here we just don't feed the wildlife, because Canada geese.
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[personal profile] moxie_man 2020-02-06 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
(chitter) Yes, no more peanuts! More hazelnuts, please!

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[personal profile] redbird 2020-02-06 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
If the local ducks are (likely) mallards, their natural diet includes a lot of whatever can be filtered from the muddy bottom of the river, lake, or salt marsh, but that's not going to be available at the supermarket or pet store. The ducks in Inwood were also fond of mulberries: there happen to be a few mulberry trees right next to the river in that bit of the park.

I just googled a bit, and found, among other things, that there are people who advertise "bird-proof squirrel feeders" and that Purina Squirrel Chow does indeed exist, and is long on the peanuts and sunflower seed, along with corn, pumpkin seed, and exactly no acorns or green vegetables. (I figured it probably existed, remembering from years ago that the Central Park Zoo was buying Purina panda biscuits for their red pandas. I saw squirrels helping themselves to those, too.
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[personal profile] cactuswatcher 2020-02-06 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Feeding the wildlife isn't exactly a great idea and it usually comes with problems. I grew up in a house in the woods. Though there was plenty for the squirrels to eat, one fall my father decided he liked watching them sit and eat. So he picked up all the walnuts from the two or three trees in the yard near the house, (quite a task in itself) and stored them. Then he'd come out in the afternoon and toss five or six of them in the shell to watch the squirrels. The first few days it worked okay. Then the squirrels started picking them up and running off with them to bury them. This wasn't what my father wanted so he started cracking them open and tossing just the nut meats. That only worked a day or two till every bird living in the area discovered what was going on. They would fly down to meet my father before the squirrels could get to him and they would get to any nuts he tossed toward the squirrels before those furry neighbors got any. After a few days of that my father gave up.

Squirrels can be pests if you want to want to watch your bird feeder. Birds are pests if you want to watch the squirrels. As someone said above if you've got wild geese around you don't want to put out a lot of any kind of feed. The same is true of wild turkeys. If you are really careless you can attract rats, mice, raccoons, possums and skunks. Even in the big city you might be surprised what would eventually show up to share in your generosity. So as conuly says don't dump your bag of peanuts on the ground!

Feeding birds or animals in the city park, good diet or not, often leads to over population...
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2020-02-06 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
what do you do with stale bread if it's bad for ducks?
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[personal profile] maju 2020-02-06 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Toast. Bread pudding. Breadcrumbs.
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[personal profile] bibliofile 2020-02-06 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Crostini & bruschetta.

Stuffing.
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[personal profile] bibliofile 2020-02-06 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
French Toast
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2020-02-07 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
these are all good answers
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[personal profile] ayebydan 2020-02-08 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Bread in the water ducks live in also creates horrid algae issues. It got so bad in our town's small loch(lake) that the council put up signs and different shops/buildings around town now offer free bags of mealworms paid for by the council.
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[personal profile] coyotegoth 2020-02-08 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
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Sounds good!
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[personal profile] coyotegoth 2020-02-12 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
The Met is good.What time of day is best?
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Maybe Sat the 29th?
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