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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2015-01-05 01:19 pm

I've lately been reading this Narnia deconstruction

http://www.anamardoll.com/2011/02/narnia-narnia-deconstruction-index-post.html

She didn't finish the whole series, but that's all right. It got me thinking a bit. The whole "kid from our world goes to fantasy world and saves the day" trope is exceedingly common, which has to mean that in Narnia type worlds, the publishers are churning out books about kids coming to strange lands without magic and saving the day. That's got to be how it works :)
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[personal profile] the_rck 2015-01-06 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Ana Mardoll's deconstructions have really changed how I view The Chronicles of Narnia. They're intellectually chewy, so to speak. I still love Narnia (I write fic for it occasionally), but I'm not thinking more deeply about its flaws.

If you're interested in discussion on Narnia, you might try here. It's a discussion that's kinder to the canon and to Lewis than Mardoll's critique, but it's still sporadically active, and you'd be welcome to introduce new topics.
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[personal profile] siderea 2015-01-07 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
which has to mean that in Narnia type worlds, the publishers are churning out books about kids coming to strange lands without magic and saving the day.

Sure! I understand there's one about a boy named Kal-El who travels to a strange magic-less place called Metropolis, where he uses his magic powers to save the day. :D

[identity profile] houseboatonstyx.livejournal.com 2015-01-08 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
That trope is a great premise: you get to describe all that wierd stuff in our terms, and the heroine usually gets to meet the rulers and observe their weird laws etc. For the Protagonist to Have Agency(tm), zie has to solve some big problem for that country.

But how many books actually use that trope? Oz, now Narnia, what else? Alice meets royalty but doesn't change the country much. Gulliver same.

Frodo solves a big problem in lands strange to him, and meets rulers. And his Shire is closr to our world than any of the other places. But I don't know of anyone labeling LOTR as a 'portal fantasy.'

[identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com 2015-01-11 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Well... it's NOT a 'portal fantasy'. There's no portal, no time-travel - Frodo travels a long way from his quiet little backwater town, but although the lands he crosses are strange to him, they're still part of the world he was born in. And it's our world too - not a fantasy-realm like Narnia, not another planet or another dimension, but our own Earth; just a very long time ago.

[identity profile] elenbarathi.livejournal.com 2015-01-11 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
There's Lord Dunsany's The King of Elfland's Daughter (http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36492):

"We would be ruled by a magic lord," they said. (https://www.worldswithoutend.com/novel.asp?ID=1793)