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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2009-01-19 10:10 pm

It's always fun to watch Ana spelling.

It reveals so much, not just about how she speaks, but about how she *thinks* she speaks.

Like this word: Tiyrd. What is that? Tired, of course. I heard her sound it out - the y is consonantal, the r is... syllabic? Is that the word? Whatever, it's off making its own r sound. Because that's how she says the word, of course. (It's roughly how I say the word too, but I'd never write the y in there, even in a word I'd never seen spelled. Why? Because I know that ys don't just pop up in the middle of words, even if you say them.)

Button becomes btn. But apple becomes apul. Same vowel, but sometimes she writes it and sometimes she doesn't. I'm not sure of the logic. I *think* it has to do with the fact that in button that "u" sound (as she'd write it) is at the end of the vowel, but in apple it's more or less at the beginning, and she's been carefully taught that when she says the sound a consonant makes she shouldn't add a gratuitous "uh" at the end. B makes the b sound, not the BUH sound. (This ended one bit of confusion, but - if I'm right - has clearly started a whole OTHER bit of confusion instead.)

Pancake - the word of much pride - is inevitably "pancaek". She knows about silent e, and wants to cram it in there as soon as possible.

She puts a lot of ds and bs where I'd put ts and ps (and she reverses d and b a lot too, just to add to the fun!) because I guess she hears them as voiced when they're between vowels. I don't, and I don't think I say them that way either, but she does.

Edit: She still gets caught up on words like train and tree, by the way. I noticed it well before she started writing and reading, that she processed those words the way they're said - chrain, chree. But she doesn't know how to *write* the ch sound, and it annoys her. I keep telling her it's a t when you write it, but....

[identity profile] marveen.livejournal.com 2009-01-20 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still trying to process the part where "t" has a "sh" sound to it. So, for example, in your area's accent, "cheese" and "tease" are homonyms?

[identity profile] marveen.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. I see what you're saying... (and damn if it isn't hard to analyze your own pronounciation without getting into the worst case of observer-effect you ever heard tell of. Bloody feedback loop, anyway.)

I'd swear some people insert a vowel between the t and r.

After reading through much of Wikipedia's information on dental consonants, I've come to the conclusion that I just speak differently to other people. (T, D, N and L are listed as dental, but I pronounce them in an alveolar fashion. TH, now, that one's dental.)