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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2008-01-12 08:52 pm
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An post on the secret benefits of accessibility

I remember having an argument with somebody about building houses accessible. I said that it only cost a few thousand dollars to build a new house with wide enough doors and a porch you can ramp for people in wheelchairs. It'd be hard to make something accessible to *everybody* at once (since two people may have complete opposite needs), but you can make the most obvious changes, right?

And he goes "Who'll pay for it?", like that's a big concern. I just didn't get it. I mean, once you're already spending a few hundred thousand for your new house, surely adding another ten thousand on to make it accessible doesn't break the bank, right? And it's got to be cheaper than renovating after the fact if something should happen.

[identity profile] xianghua.livejournal.com 2008-01-13 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
My parents recently (September) completed a weekend house at our family farm. And while some stuff definately added to the overall cost (all the doorways are 4' wide, the hallways are 6' wide- so it DID increase the overall square footage) other things (like a walk-in shower without a lip on it and a slightly dipped floor), making the counters a bit lower than standard wouldn't be much more expensive than any other custom option- and when you're having your own house built, it's silly to think you'll want everything off the shelf anyway.

The people who really need working on are the large homebuilders. Custom homes aren't as much a problem as the less expensive housing like subdivision and tract homes, where designers seem to choose the least expensive solution for any given option- 24" doors for closets, the tiniest, least expensive showers and tubs available, grab bars which are yes, sunk into studs- but the studs are 2x4 instead of really being well-anchored (thye're something that may be supporting the weight of an adult human weighing more than a hundred pounds- not all disabled folks are skinny little old women!)

I'm hoping to take some photos of the new house soon, if you'd like them. It's a beautiful home and the accessibility is just a bonus- it adds to the airy, light feel of the house.

[identity profile] xianghua.livejournal.com 2008-01-13 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
See, and I *can* think of places it'd be annoying at best and actively hurtful at worst- tiny building spaces, for 1. Thos 6' hallways and 4' doors take up a HUGE chunk of floor space. If that house was built with 4' hallways and 3' doors no, it'd not be as accessible-b ut it'd be almost 30% smaller. Not a consideration when you're building it on a property of several thousand acres, but when you're putting it on a tiny city lot- or a townhouse- it could impact things negatively. I think it should be a choice and one that more builders make, with tax incentives to encourage them in that direction- but I'm not a big fan of UBCs anyway.

[identity profile] stejcruetekie.livejournal.com 2008-01-13 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
If I'm building a house, the only regulations I want on it are those concerning safety and stability of the house (electrical, structural, etc).

Why on earth should I have to spend an extra $10,000 on *my* house for things I quite possibly would never need?

$10,000, no matter how you look at it, is a good chunk of change. It can add a whole year to your mortage. The whole thing with building just about anything is "oh it's only this much more to do this, and only a little bit more to do that, and..." and soon you end up with something 3 times as expensive.

So, I flat out disagree with you here.