conuly: Good Omens quote: "Kids! Bringing about Armageddon can be dangerous!" (armageddon)
conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote2010-11-28 03:08 pm

[identity profile] leora.livejournal.com 2010-11-28 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yes... we're not in that much danger. Especially not on the plane. Planes were a serious target once, because of the fuel, and the ability to use them as bombs, but that requires being able to fly them. The reinforcement of the cockpit doors changed things a lot. Now, I don't see why we treat them as any higher priority as any other large group of people as far as a target goes. If you do want to create terror, you can bomb any large group of people, and now and then, someone will try, and mostly fail, and every now and then succeed, and we'll still have far more people dying in car accidents.

*shrugs* Drinks would be good if they had a variety, including non-alcoholic. It would help make up for the fact that they stupidly confiscate them from you, so you can't bring ones with you and then have to pay extra high prices for them if you buy them in the airport.

I'm worried that the TSA is trying to extend its power, saying we need to protect trains and buses. If they do start "protecting" trains it will turn the US into a nearly unlivable place, since people won't be able to travel. And it'll be a huge increase in the degree to which the US is a police state (I view police statedom as a spectrum, most countries have some degree of it, but it becomes an issue if you have a lot). And the only country I could move to is Germany, and I don't speak the language (well, I could move to Israel, but I really don't want to, and I could try to move to Spain, but it'd be difficult and I also don't speak the language, so Germany it'd be) and I don't want to leave.

[identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com 2010-11-28 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, it's not just the TSA. It's the everything since the Patriot Act. They want power. And they want to make money off it.

[identity profile] ginmar.livejournal.com 2010-11-28 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, money is power. You can have power without money but money gets you a lot of power. They want both and they think if they have a lot of money, they should have power.

[identity profile] leora.livejournal.com 2010-11-28 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll vote for both too. But I also can't help but think of Eddie Izzard...

It's the American dream... to get a whole lot of money, stick it in your ears and go lalala! That's the American dream!

[identity profile] leora.livejournal.com 2010-11-28 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Alas, I agree. Although it probably goes much further back. It just significantly increased with the Patriot Act. It's kind of human nature.

It's just that the system of checks and balances set up in the US Constitution actually works pretty well. Not well enough (not nearly), but surprisingly well. But it did start getting really bad with the Patriot Act.

I have really been hoping things would improve, and I still do hope so. But it's hard holding out hope.

It has gotten quite bad before in the past. The 40s had internment of US citizens, the 50s had McCarthyism. I believe even up through the 70s it was common to take the children of natives away from their parents and give them up for adoption without parental consent. And the complicated changes with regards to how Blacks have been treated in the US are far too complex to summarize.

Sometimes rights do increase. Sometimes things do get better. It could happen.

I hate being monolingual with no aptitude for language acquisition.

[identity profile] ksol1460.livejournal.com 2010-11-29 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
"I believe even up through the 70s it was common to take the children of natives away from their parents and give them up for adoption without parental consent."

Well, they got parental consent, but would fudge it. They would tell a new mother "She would have a much better chance in life" if you let these well-off white people adopt her. Oh yeah. So she'd sign it and let him go. The various nations are still trying to trace all the lost birds.

The Indian Child Welfare Act was a big help in '79, because now if an Indian child has to be adopted they have to first look for a family from her/his same tribe.

[identity profile] leora.livejournal.com 2010-11-29 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, okay. Nothing quite like pressuring new moms.