conuly: (Default)
[personal profile] conuly
Soooo Blaine revealed that he had lost his memory, but now he got it back.

And the conversation online is still 100% "But really, he should still have been punished even with complete memory loss". Argh. What on earth is the point of punishing somebody who doesn't remember what they did? Even if they did something really bad, like Blaine did?

I'm all for throwing the book at him now, he's an unrepentant murderer. (Easy on the eyes, though.) But if he'd legit lost his memory? Why bother? "Well, a crime was committed and somebody has to be punished." (That's pretty much an exact quote, and a terrifying thought. This is not how justice works!)

Also, Liv is probably the only person on TV to use "whom" in cold blood.

Date: 2017-05-11 08:06 pm (UTC)
steorra: A cross that looks like a star, or vice versa. (christianity)
From: [personal profile] steorra
I have to say, my initial reaction to "Well, a crime was committed and somebody has to be punished" is "How Protestant!" ("People sinned and God had to punish somebody and Jesus let himself be punished in place of us") And given the place of Protestantism in US/English-speaking history and culture, I suppose that's not a farfetched connection.

"and a terrifying thought. This is not how justice works!"
Indeed.
Edited Date: 2017-05-11 08:07 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-05-11 09:48 pm (UTC)
steorra: A cross that looks like a star, or vice versa. (christianity)
From: [personal profile] steorra
Indeed!

That's why I specified "Protestant", not "Christian". I'm Eastern Orthodox, and that is not our understanding of who God is, but it seems to be the typical Protestant view (and the one I grew up with) - though Protestants are incohesive enough that it's not the only Protestant view either.

Yay for random tangents.
(As Madeleine L'Engle apparently didn't write, despite my memory, "some of the best conversations happen on tangents")

Date: 2017-05-11 10:56 pm (UTC)
rivendellrose: (*snerk*)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
Eeeee, someone else I know is watching this show! ♥

Agreed, I had no interest in Blaine getting punished for things he didn't remember doing, and even now it's... somewhat potentially complicated? I was fairly sure all along that original!Blaine would be coming back at some point one way or another, but I find the "his memory did come back but slowly" thing really interesting in terms of trying to figure out to what extent he's still Same Old Blaine and to what extent it's possible he's New Blaine. ...And also what the heck he's doing with the memory serum.

Date: 2017-05-12 12:55 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (*snerk*)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
Yeah, good guy amnesiac Blaine is just not as interesting as bleached blond bad boy Blaine. (Or as hot. I mean, I wouldn't date him, but....)

Morally dubious Blaine, however, has got some appeal. (I wouldn't date him either, but that's not the point, is it?)


I have loved both in completely different ways. I found good guy amnesiac Blaine embarrassingly adorable, but bad guy Blaine is just like having Spike from Buffy back except better because they're not getting confused about "oh but he's a NICE GUY even though he killed people!" Except when amnesia happened, of course, which is legitimate IMHO. And in general I have precisely zero shame about being attracted to good acting, and that dude is flippin' fantastic. 10/10 totally wish he'd done anything else that I actually wanted to see.

Would 100% date Ravi, but would happily watch either version of Blaine do pretty much anything for hours on end.

Washing his windows for a streak-free shine?

Lol, yes! That must be it. He just wants to clean the windows at Shady Plots (best funeral-home-run-by-a-sometime-villain name ever). ♥

Date: 2017-05-12 02:10 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Cheers Pinkskin)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
Totally. Fillmore Graves had The Boy and I going "DID THEY REALLY--?!" in the season finale. Totally brilliant. And "I'm not crazy, I'm just a little undead."

Honestly, this show's use of music in the last season and a half or so has been fantastic. I've got money now on them using The Cranberries' "Zombie" for a season or series finale, but so far my favorite is a tie between "Man of La Mancha (I, Don Quixote)" when Major storms in to "rescue" his other girl and "One Day More" from Les Mis while Blaine was screwing around with his dad.

Date: 2017-05-12 04:12 am (UTC)
oracleofdoom: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oracleofdoom
Oh my god, I'll be so disappointed now if they don't use "Zombie." I loved that "Man of La Mancha" bit.

Date: 2017-05-12 04:14 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (dance)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
Right?! It would be so perfect! As soon as it popped into my head, I felt like they just have to!

Date: 2017-05-12 04:10 am (UTC)
oracleofdoom: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oracleofdoom
He is kinda hot.

Date: 2017-05-12 04:09 am (UTC)
oracleofdoom: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oracleofdoom
Yes, I really wanna know what he's doing with that serum! I have no idea! Did I miss some clue?

Date: 2017-05-12 04:16 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Scully)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
If you did, I did, too. I think maybe it's indicating that his memory didn't actually come back on its own, but I can't figure out why he'd lie and say it did except to screw over Major? Or maybe because if Liv and Major both take the cure and lose their memories then he thinks he'll be in the clear?

Date: 2017-05-12 04:21 am (UTC)
oracleofdoom: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oracleofdoom

Since Major's memory came back, I don't think that's it. I honestly cannot figure it out. I find a lot of shows kind of predictable, but I'm totally stumped with this one. Which is awesome. :)

Date: 2017-05-12 04:34 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Cheers Pinkskin)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
Ohhhh.... on a similar line to that, he could maybe be planning on presenting them as a faux 'cure' to that rich kid that Don E. was talking about, maybe?

Date: 2017-05-12 04:42 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
Curses, right, I forgot about that part. Dang it. Hmmmm. Blaine's brain is too twisty for me, apparently.

Date: 2017-05-12 04:33 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Flapper)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
Yeah, I haven't figured out how that would work, either. The only thing I can come up with is that Major's memory came back awfully quickly - like, suspiciously so? So I wonder if it's actually just doing the fading-in-and-out thing, and if it's going to get worse again?

I really am impressed, yeah - I would never have believed that what seemed like such a silly little show really early on would have me so completely fascinated and hooked!

Date: 2017-05-12 04:41 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (bleeding heart)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
True, but that's after they dosed him with the memory serum. We don't know yet what role that might have played.

Date: 2017-05-12 12:00 am (UTC)
nrgburst: (caroline what?!)
From: [personal profile] nrgburst
That is ridiculous. What does punishment gain anybody? Why aren't they talking about reconciliation and restitution?

Also, I guess these people don't have much experience with dementia? Odd, considering it's pretty common in the elderly. But yes, let's punish grandma for shoplifting because she forgot to pay. That'll teach her! RME

Also, Liv is probably the only person on TV to use "whom" in cold blood.
I am SO SO glad somebody else noticed this! XDDD I was like bzuh, she said whom. Like out loud.

Date: 2017-05-12 04:08 am (UTC)
oracleofdoom: (Default)
From: [personal profile] oracleofdoom
If he were someone who wanted to change, I love anti-heroes. But I'm not sure what the hell he has going on. I almost felt sorry for him, but Peyton was right. His deception there prevented people from being cured when they could have been, and that's really shitty.

Apparently this got renewed for another season, so I think it's safe to assume Liv isn't going to find a cure this season. Poor Liv.

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